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New EPA "Rules" could raise Gas prices 25 cents

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:34 am
by AEA
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01 ... as-prices/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is bad enough, but, if the EPA can do this with "Rules", what's to stop them from doing it to ammo? :banghead:

When will Americans wake up and stop this systematic reduction of the USA to a UK clone? :mad5 :mad5 :banghead: :banghead: :cryin :grumble :eek6

Re: New EPA "Rules" could raise Gas prices 25 cents

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:10 am
by PappaGun
And the end of the ethanol subsidy (which I agree with) will also raise prices.

WHAM, WHAM

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industrie ... 52355056/1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: New EPA "Rules" could raise Gas prices 25 cents

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:01 am
by Heartland Patriot
PappaGun wrote:And the end of the ethanol subsidy (which I agree with) will also raise prices.

WHAM, WHAM

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industrie ... 52355056/1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Look at it this way...if they end the ethanol subsidy, the manufacturers won't put ethanol into the gas anymore, or they will put VERY little. That is a good thing because the ethanol in the gasoline makes you mileage go DOWN. Ethanol just doesn't have the same energy per unit that gasoline does, so you have to burn more of it to do the same amount of work. That said, the other EPA part of the whole deal ticks me off to no end. :mad5

Re: New EPA "Rules" could raise Gas prices 25 cents

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:01 am
by Oldgringo
The current POTUS is trying to garner votes by consolidating the government (horse hockey). If he and the congress (leeches) wanted to do something positive they'd dismantle the self-reproducing EPA!

Talk about a drain on the economy, the EPA has done exactly the opposite of what it was formed to do.
If only I was in charge. {*SIGH*}

Re: New EPA "Rules" could raise Gas prices 25 cents

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:39 am
by Heartland Patriot
Oldgringo wrote:The current POTUS is trying to garner votes by consolidating the government (horse hockey). If he and the congress (leeches) wanted to do something positive they'd dismantle the self-reproducing EPA!

Talk about a drain on the economy, the EPA has done exactly the opposite of what it was formed to do.
If only I was in charge. {*SIGH*}
The EPA should have one function: to prevent GROSS and DANGEROUS, pollution. By that I mean things like unregulated/untreated human"effluvium" being piped into a river...barrels of industrial waste such as organic solvents buried in an area with a shallow water table...venting gasses KNOWN and PROVEN to be directly harmful to human beings (for example, hydrogen cyanide, used in manufacturing) straight out into the atmosphere. Beyond that, its just a power grab and an ideological agenda designed to FORCE American citizens to bend to that same said ideology, whether they like it or not, and without much recourse. And as far at the White House Occupier wanting to consolidate several Federal agencies, all that would do is make the resultant machine more powerful and more efficient at interfering with business in this nation...make no mistake, the crew in charge right now LOVES central planning and government regulation (we've seen how well that works out, I mean the Soviet Union is a paragon of economic might...oh, yeah, right)...I don't care what term you use to describe them but I use socialist as a catchall.

Re: New EPA "Rules" could raise Gas prices 25 cents

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:27 pm
by there is no cake
Heartland Patriot wrote:
PappaGun wrote:And the end of the ethanol subsidy (which I agree with) will also raise prices.

WHAM, WHAM

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industrie ... 52355056/1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Look at it this way...if they end the ethanol subsidy, the manufacturers won't put ethanol into the gas anymore, or they will put VERY little. That is a good thing because the ethanol in the gasoline makes you mileage go DOWN. Ethanol just doesn't have the same energy per unit that gasoline does, so you have to burn more of it to do the same amount of work. That said, the other EPA part of the whole deal ticks me off to no end. :mad5
Plus we're paying those subsidies through our taxes. There's no free lunch. The cake is a lie.

Getting rid of the subsidies reduces the government robbing Peter to pay Paul.