srothstein wrote:Relevant to this law is the phrase regulate interstate commerce. Just exactly what is legitimate regulation is not spelled out, and neither is exactly what is interstate commerce. This vagueness is why I am not sure the law will be ruled unconstitutional and why I am not sure the court would be wrong in saying so. We would be much better off working to get the law repealed through the legislative process than counting on the court.
I honestly think that if this law is not overturned by the court, we will be at a tipping point for some kind of significantly traumatic reset button, possibly one involving violence nationwide. There are just too many people who are bitterly BITTERLY opposed, and who may take their anger out in violent manners against those elected officials who voted for it. I would not—and let me be clear that I am not advocating
here—be surprised if people started taking potshots at those representatives and senators who voted for this abomination.
I personally feel so strongly about this, that I could not be anymore outraged if Congress had re-instituted slavery, because I believe that the healthcare bill is no less a violation of my rights as a sovereign citizen and it makes us slaves to the whim of every commie pinko bastard democrat who is determined to turn the USA into Cuba. If I can't even decline to buy a product I don't want—and more importantly, don't need
—without being fined a significant chunk of cash nearly equivalent to a monthly insurance premium each and every month by the IRS, then how can anyone legitimately argue that I still have rights? If they can do this to you, they can come take your guns too. They can imprison you without a trial. They can quarter troops in your house. They can search you, and detain you as long as they want. If they get away with this, they can do anything they want to you, and you will have no recourse..........except at the bullet box, because apparently the ballot box is broken. A Congress that is this far out of touch with A) what people want, and B) what rights they have, is a Congress that has lost all moral authority. If SCOTUS lacks the courage to say "ENOUGH!!!," then I really do think that the backblast could push this country into real third world-style political violence, with people getting disappeared, and the degradation of democracy into dictatorial oligarchy.
I know that might sound paranoid to some, but I really am truly worried about this stuff. It is exactly this kind of legislation that will lead to the dissolution of our political system, and any access to the American Dream. True patriots simply must do whatever is required in the way of exercising their political rights while they still have them
to get this thing overthrown; and then to vote every crappy toxic democrat out of office and ensure that their party ceases to exist as a political force.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan_Speaks_Out_Against_Socialized_Medicine
Reagan opens by saying that in 1927 socialist Norman Thomas said that the American people would never vote for socialism, but "under the name of liberalism the American people would adopt every fragment of the socialist program."
Reagan says that "Government has invaded the free precincts of private citizens," stating that the U.S. government owns "1/5th of the total industrial capacity of the United States." Reagan says "One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. It’s very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project, most people are a little reluctant to oppose anything that suggests medical care for people who possibly can’t afford it." Reagan cites the failure of president Harry Truman's national health insurance proposal as evidence of the American people's rejection of socialized medicine.
Reagan describes Representative Aime Forand as having introduced a bill which would institute "compulsory health insurance" for all people of social security age. Forand is quoted as having said, “If we can only break through and get our foot inside the door, then we can extend the program after that." Forand is likened to labor union leader Walter Reuther, who is quoted as having said, "It’s no secret that the United Automobile Workers is officially on record of backing a program of national health insurance." The Forand bill is described as being praised by socialists: "They say once the Forand bill is passed this nation will be provided with a mechanism for socialized medicine capable of indefinite expansion in every direction until it includes the entire population. Now we can’t say we haven’t been warned."
been warned. There was a time when democrats could be counted on to be virulently anti-communist (JFK comes to mind). Not any longer. From now on, any democrat is going to have to prove to me that he is a friend of the Constitution, or as far as I am concerned, his voting makes him a domestic enemy of it.
"Freedom had been hunted round the globe; reason was considered as rebellion; and the slavery of fear had made men afraid to think. But such is the irresistible nature of truth, that all it asks, and all it wants, is the liberty of appearing." --Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791