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Just allow anyone with a CHL to carry anywhere LEO can carry.Russell wrote:.
Thoughts?
Then the law that allows LEO to carry anywhere needs to be changed.Russell wrote:Sorry, but I disagree. I do not think CHL holders should be able to carry anywhere LEO's can, do to the fact that that really would go against private property rights.
We need to start small, and clarifying the few things I mentioned up above would be leaps and bounds above what we have right now.
I agree 100%.Just allow anyone with a CHL to carry anywhere LEO can carry.
Purplehood wrote:I agree 100%.Just allow anyone with a CHL to carry anywhere LEO can carry.
Okay, be that way.Russell wrote:It appears I'm the minority here on this one. Sounds fun
The law that allows LEO's to practically carry anywhere does not need to be changed. It is their job to apprehend criminals and prevent crime, therefor they need to have the authority and ability to do that.
It is not a CHL holders job to be an LEO. If private property is posted, so be it. Report it (texas3006.com), try to change the owner's mind (Hand out no guns no money cards), and then go somewhere else and talk with your dollars.
But above all, and I mean ABOVE ALL, respect private property rights, and that includes allowing the owner to restrict who, and what, he does not want on his land.
We can fight our fight, but that fight should not entail taking away private property owner's rights.
It is not our right to be on their land with something they don't want on there. Go purchase your stuff somewhere else if their business is posted.
That is my stance. :)
I wrote the bill within 3 days of Governor Perry making that statement.anygunanywhere wrote:Just allow anyone with a CHL to carry anywhere LEO can carry.
Gov. Perry has stated his support for this idea.
Anygunanywhere
Thank you, Charles.Charles L. Cotton wrote:I wrote the bill within 3 days of Governor Perry making that statement.anygunanywhere wrote:Just allow anyone with a CHL to carry anywhere LEO can carry.
Gov. Perry has stated his support for this idea.
Anygunanywhere
Chas.
I have agreed with this since day one. Mr. Cotton now the Bill is written push it through for us.Charles L. Cotton wrote:I wrote the bill within 3 days of Governor Perry making that statement.anygunanywhere wrote:Just allow anyone with a CHL to carry anywhere LEO can carry.
Gov. Perry has stated his support for this idea.
Anygunanywhere
Chas.
Exempting CHLs from both TPC§§ 46.02 and 46.03 (as are LEOs, judges, probation officers, railroad COPS, and many more) will allow CHLs to carry in places that would otherwise be off-limits under TPC §46.03 and 46.035. This has nothing to do with removing a private citizen's ability to post their property with 30.06 signs.Russell wrote:It appears I'm the minority here on this one. Sounds fun
The law that allows LEO's to practically carry anywhere does not need to be changed. It is their job to apprehend criminals and prevent crime, therefor they need to have the authority and ability to do that.
It is not a CHL holders job to be an LEO. If private property is posted, so be it. Report it (texas3006.com), try to change the owner's mind (Hand out no guns no money cards), and then go somewhere else and talk with your dollars.
But above all, and I mean ABOVE ALL, respect private property rights, and that includes allowing the owner to restrict who, and what, he does not want on his land.
We can fight our fight, but that fight should not entail taking away private property owner's rights.
It is not our right to be on their land with something they don't want on there. Go purchase your stuff somewhere else if their business is posted.
That is my stance. :)
Here is the statutory language I should have included earlier. LEOs cannot be prosecuted for criminal trespass if the sole reason for excluding them was the possession of a firearm. This is true even if the LEO is off-duty. (I don't want to get into an argument about "I'm always on-duty. No you aren't. You're always a LEO, but you're not always "on duty.") Remember, TPC §30.06 does not apply to armed LEOs since they wouldn't be carrying pursuant to the authority of their CHL, even if they have one. So the only basis for a criminal trespass charge against a LEO would be TPC §30.05.Charles L. Cotton wrote:Exempting CHLs from both TPC§§ 46.02 and 46.03 (as are LEOs, judges, probation officers, railroad COPS, and many more) will allow CHLs to carry in places that would otherwise be off-limits under TPC §46.03 and 46.035. This has nothing to do with removing a private citizen's ability to post their property with 30.06 signs.Russell wrote:It appears I'm the minority here on this one. Sounds fun
The law that allows LEO's to practically carry anywhere does not need to be changed. It is their job to apprehend criminals and prevent crime, therefor they need to have the authority and ability to do that.
It is not a CHL holders job to be an LEO. If private property is posted, so be it. Report it (texas3006.com), try to change the owner's mind (Hand out no guns no money cards), and then go somewhere else and talk with your dollars.
But above all, and I mean ABOVE ALL, respect private property rights, and that includes allowing the owner to restrict who, and what, he does not want on his land.
We can fight our fight, but that fight should not entail taking away private property owner's rights.
It is not our right to be on their land with something they don't want on there. Go purchase your stuff somewhere else if their business is posted.
That is my stance. :)
Chas.
TPC 30.05 wrote:(i) This section [criminal trespass] does not apply if:.
- (1) the basis on which entry on the property or land or in the building was forbidden is that entry with a handgun or other weapon was forbidden; and
(2) the actor at the time of the offense was a peace officer, including a commissioned peace officer of a recognized state, or a special investigator under Article 2.122, Code of Criminal Procedure, regardless of whether the peace officer or special investigator was engaged in the actual discharge of an official duty while carrying the weapon