I guess I'm not really sure what UNL means. An obvious guess might be "unlicensed", but "unlicensed carry handgun licensed holder" doesn't make much sense.UNL CARRY HANDGUN LIC HOLDER 15 9 60.0000%
Help me understand this
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Help me understand this
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administra ... rt2007.pdf
Re: Help me understand this
UNL = Unlawful
So, it is Unlawful Carry of a Handgun by a License Holder
So, it is Unlawful Carry of a Handgun by a License Holder
Re: Help me understand this
This has been discussed before: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=11348" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
No one understands it.
It should not be possible for person who does not have a CHL to be convicted of unlawful carry by a license holder.
It is possible for a person who has a CHL to be convicted under 46.02, which normally does not apply to a CHL holder. The circumstances where it can happen are carrying a handgun without the license on one's person or carrying a semi-auto with an NSA license.
The only other reasonable explanation is coding errors.
It would be nice if DPS listed the statutes that were violated instead of these cryptic descriptions.
- Jim
No one understands it.
It should not be possible for person who does not have a CHL to be convicted of unlawful carry by a license holder.
It is possible for a person who has a CHL to be convicted under 46.02, which normally does not apply to a CHL holder. The circumstances where it can happen are carrying a handgun without the license on one's person or carrying a semi-auto with an NSA license.
The only other reasonable explanation is coding errors.
It would be nice if DPS listed the statutes that were violated instead of these cryptic descriptions.
- Jim
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Re: Help me understand this
Don't forget plea bargains down and such.seamusTX wrote:This has been discussed before: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=11348" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
No one understands it.
It should not be possible for person who does not have a CHL to be convicted of unlawful carry by a license holder.
It is possible for a person who has a CHL to be convicted under 46.02, which normally does not apply to a CHL holder. The circumstances where it can happen are carrying a handgun without the license on one's person or carrying a semi-auto with an NSA license.
The only other reasonable explanation is coding errors.
It would be nice if DPS listed the statutes that were violated instead of these cryptic descriptions.
- Jim
IANAL, YMMV, ITEOTWAWKI and all that.
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I'm not sure why this would not be understood. Unlawful Carry of a Handgun by License Holder is PC §46.035. That would include the following offenses:
- Intentional Failure to Conceal
- Carrying into a 51% establishment
- Carrying at a High school, collegiate, or professonal sporting event
- Carrying into a correctional facility
- Carrying while intoxicated
- Carrying at a Governmental meeting
EDIT: Ok, I see now what you're talking about. The stats indicate there were people convicted of that offense that aren't CHL holders. Now, that's a good question.
- Intentional Failure to Conceal
- Carrying into a 51% establishment
- Carrying at a High school, collegiate, or professonal sporting event
- Carrying into a correctional facility
- Carrying while intoxicated
- Carrying at a Governmental meeting
EDIT: Ok, I see now what you're talking about. The stats indicate there were people convicted of that offense that aren't CHL holders. Now, that's a good question.
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I think the question is why isn't the percentage 100%. Who were the 6 of 15 convictions of Unlawful Carry by License Holder who DIDN'T have a license? Maybe people w/ out of state licenses?BrianSW99 wrote:I'm not sure why this would not be understood. Unlawful Carry of a Handgun by License Holder is PC §46.035. That would include the following offenses:
- Intentional Failure to Conceal
- Carrying into a 51% establishment
- Carrying at a High school, collegiate, or professonal sporting event
- Carrying into a correctional facility
- Carrying while intoxicated
- Carrying at a Governmental meeting
EDIT: Ok, I see now what you're talking about. The stats indicate there were people convicted of that offense that aren't CHL holders. Now, that's a good question.
4/13/1996 Completed CHL Class, 4/16/1996 Fingerprints, Affidavits, and Application Mailed, 10/4/1996 Received CHL, renewed 1998, 2002, 2006, 2011, 2016...). "ATF... Uhhh...heh...heh....Alcohol, tobacco, and GUNS!! Cool!!!!"