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I'm hoping Boerne ISD will follow suit.
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troglodyte wrote:I would like to see schools as a CHL allowed area.
:iagree:
It would be fantastic for the Texas legislature to side with the good guys and remove the restriction, rather than helping bad guys by continuing to offer up soft targets, but that may be literally fantastic with this current crop in Austin.
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Read this in the local paper today:

Bonham ISD announced that a selected number of their staff have gone through training in the "Defender Program". With documented proof of chl, pyschologist eval, semi-auto from 22lr to 45 (no revolvers), "defensive" ammo, and written authorization of the Superintendent the selected may carry on campus. They WILL NOT carry to school events not on Bonham ISD property.

They too have warning signs stating:

"The Bonham ISD Board of Trustees has authorized employees on this campus to carry concealed handguns to better protect our students and staff".

This is a step in the right direction. Hope it works it's way south to our little town so my grand daughter is a little better protected in her school.
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2farnorth wrote:"The Bonham ISD Board of Trustees has authorized employees on this campus to carry concealed handguns to better protect our students and staff".
Awesome!
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Here is the sign a small local ISD posted after they armed certain staff...

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tacticool wrote:
troglodyte wrote:I would like to see schools as a CHL allowed area.
:iagree:
It would be fantastic for the Texas legislature to side with the good guys and remove the restriction, rather than helping bad guys by continuing to offer up soft targets, but that may be literally fantastic with this current crop in Austin.

even if the state passes legislation allowing CHL'rs to carry on school premises, i would wager that the federal govt will find a way to bully schools into denying it, and penalizing those campuses already arming staff, such as withholding federal funds for the state and schools,
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Something should be done to allow the teachers and school "marshals" to supplement those whose only defence of themselves and the kids is to throw an eraser.
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tomdavis wrote:Something should be done to allow the teachers and school "marshals" to supplement those whose only defence of themselves and the kids is to throw an eraser.

They have staplers also.
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mojo84 wrote:They have staplers also.
The best ones have .40 hole punchers. :fire
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NOMW wrote:I had the opportunity on Fox and Friends this morning to raise awareness and educate folks on my program for keeping our schools safe.

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What if I am a teacher (and I am) who already has his CHL and I take the psych eval, and for whatever reason, don't pass it for carrying at school? Will that flag me because I might "do something"? Might I loose my job or my permit because of the test results? When I go to a gun show and purchase a firearm, will that eval follow me, and might I be denied the gun purchase? Caution must be exercised here, because if there is no due process our rights are at risk when no crime has yet to be committed. Seems like a slippery slope. I'd rather see a standard background check plus additional training

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Dreamer42 wrote:What if I am a teacher (and I am) who already has his CHL and I take the psych eval, and for whatever reason, don't pass it for carrying at school? Will that flag me because I might "do something"? Might I loose my job or my permit because of the test results? When I go to a gun show and purchase a firearm, will that eval follow me, and might I be denied the gun purchase? Caution must be exercised here, because if there is no due process our rights are at risk when no crime has yet to be committed. Seems like a slippery slope. I'd rather see a standard background check plus additional training
:tiphat: Excellent thought here & especially if that psych is an AntiGuner w/ his own agenda.
The thought that a teacher "should be able to pass" is not the issue. "Shall not be infringed" is the issue.
Good for the students & teachers in all these districts including the one I live in even though I have no children or GrandOnes in school here.
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Re: Armed Faculty

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Dreamer42 wrote:What if I am a teacher (and I am) who already has his CHL and I take the psych eval, and for whatever reason, don't pass it for carrying at school? Will that flag me because I might "do something"? Might I loose my job or my permit because of the test results? When I go to a gun show and purchase a firearm, will that eval follow me, and might I be denied the gun purchase? Caution must be exercised here, because if there is no due process our rights are at risk when no crime has yet to be committed. Seems like a slippery slope. I'd rather see a standard background check plus additional training
That's not an outrageous thought. That's why there should be a second level of CHL with additional training and practice and tighter shooting requirements. Anyone with a CHL should be eligible to upgrade their CHL. If the do so successfully then they are authorized to carry anywhere on any school campus and perhaps other currently forbidden places as well. No further tests or checks or anything else. The check to pass to get the CHL in the first place is it. You qualify for a CHL+ and that's it.

Some of the faculty/staff may upgrade. Some of the parents may upgrade. Bad guys would have to wonder not just about a handful of faculty/staff but also about any and all parents who randomly show up at campus for various reasons. It adds even more layers of protection.
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Re: Armed Faculty

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The only chance school staff has of carrying is to work for a small ISD who cannot afford to hire armed guards or police. The bigger schools who can afford to will hire police who have power of arrest everytime. Ive been working in the school system for nearly 10yrs and Im also a commissioned LEO. Im going to be most likely getting back into the school system(maintenance)very soon.
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nightmare69 wrote:The only chance school staff has of carrying is to work for a small ISD who cannot afford to hire armed guards or police. The bigger schools who can afford to will hire police who have power of arrest everytime. Ive been working in the school system for nearly 10yrs and Im also a commissioned LEO. Im going to be most likely getting back into the school system(maintenance)very soon.
Do you need permission to carry when you're working at the school for the new job?
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