Do I have to keep my LTC card on my body?

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Re: Do I have to keep my LTC card on my body?

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PatrickMas20 wrote:I cant stand big wallets especially in my back pocket. My solution was a slim wallet and I found mine on amazon for $20 bucks and has held up great over the past year. Really thin and sometimes I forget its even in my pocket.

http://shop.herschelsupply.com/products ... t-navy-red
I have one similar to that that I carry my DL, LTC, Debit Card, and Credit Card in now. Carry it in front left pocket, opposite my holster. But I also have my old wallet in my back left pocket, with some cash, some gift cards, my medical insurance cards, an expired DL, and an expired credit card. Enough to satisfy a common crook without relinquishing my LTC, ID, and active banking cards.
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Re: Do I have to keep my LTC card on my body?

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allisji wrote:
PatrickMas20 wrote:I cant stand big wallets especially in my back pocket. My solution was a slim wallet and I found mine on amazon for $20 bucks and has held up great over the past year. Really thin and sometimes I forget its even in my pocket.

http://shop.herschelsupply.com/products ... t-navy-red
I have one similar to that that I carry my DL, LTC, Debit Card, and Credit Card in now. Carry it in front left pocket, opposite my holster. But I also have my old wallet in my back left pocket, with some cash, some gift cards, my medical insurance cards, an expired DL, and an expired credit card. Enough to satisfy a common crook without relinquishing my LTC, ID, and active banking cards.
I carry my wallet in front left as well. I rarely carry cash, but if i do its in my small "watch" pocket on the right side. I stopped putting my wallet in my back pocket because of back problems, found out I had scoliosis during a physical in high school... I like to keep the pockets light.
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Re: Do I have to keep my LTC card on my body?

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PatrickMas20 wrote:I cant stand big wallets especially in my back pocket. My solution was a slim wallet and I found mine on amazon for $20 bucks and has held up great over the past year. Really thin and sometimes I forget its even in my pocket.

http://shop.herschelsupply.com/products ... t-navy-red
I've used one of these for the last several years: https://www.amazon.com/Slim-Card-Clip-D ... B01IC0XG5K

Cash on one side and a few cards on the other. It's very slim and goes in my front pocket.
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Pawpaw wrote:
I've used one of these for the last several years: https://www.amazon.com/Slim-Card-Clip-D ... B01IC0XG5K

Cash on one side and a few cards on the other. It's very slim and goes in my front pocket.
I will second the slim clip. The main thing I like about all of these small wallets is that it helps keep a person from continually adding junk. My last real wallet was right at an inch thick. The slim clip forces a culling.
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I see nothing in the statute that requires it to be on your physical body...I also do not find any statute that requires you to keep your driver's license on you body...nor your pilot's license.

You are required to be able to produce those certificates upon demand (by statute), and that can't be done unless those certificates are readily available at a moment's notice.

Why wouldn't you carry it in your wallet? I bet you have your NRA certificate in your wallet...as well as your credit cards...and your driver's license...and if you are a pilot I know you have those in your wallet. So why not the LTC?

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Then I assume you didn't read this post: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=85466&start=15#p1097719
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thetexan wrote:I see nothing in the statute that requires it to be on your physical body...I also do not find any statute that requires you to keep your driver's license on you body...nor your pilot's license.

You are required to be able to produce those certificates upon demand (by statute), and that can't be done unless those certificates are readily available at a moment's notice.

Why wouldn't you carry it in your wallet? I bet you have your NRA certificate in your wallet...as well as your credit cards...and your driver's license...and if you are a pilot I know you have those in your wallet. So why not the LTC?

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Re: Do I have to keep my LTC card on my body?

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I do believe its a good idea to keep your CHL and ID on you while carrying. It is the law after all. I believe not having it with you could cause a big inconvenience if you are asked for it by an LEO. However, there is no penalty for not having it with you. There should be no fines,and no court hearings if you don't happen to have it on you. THe hassle would be being held and getting your status clarified.
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flowrie wrote:I thought a cell phone would mess up the magnetic strip on credit cards, etc...
My LTC has a strip on the back.
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Not sure, anyone know?
I believe the stripes on credit cards are safe; however a cell phone in the same pocket as a hotel room key card might get zapped. Been many a trips to the front desk for a re-key from having them together.... :banghead:
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Liberty wrote:I do believe its a good idea to keep your CHL and ID on you while carrying. It is the law after all. I believe not having it with you could cause a big inconvenience if you are asked for it by an LEO. However, there is no penalty for not having it with you. There should be no fines,and no court hearings if you don't happen to have it on you. THe hassle would be being held and getting your status clarified.
Technically, the penalty for not carrying it on you is a class A misdemeanor for Unlawful Carrying of a Weapon 46.02. The law says in order to be excepted from 46.02 you have to have your LTC on you. I don't think many prosecutors would try to get you, but do you want to be the (proverbial) test case?
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ScottDLS wrote:
Technically, the penalty for not carrying it on you is a class A misdemeanor for Unlawful Carrying of a Weapon 46.02. The law says in order to be excepted from 46.02 you have to have your LTC on you. I don't think many prosecutors would try to get you, but do you want to be the (proverbial) test case?
Thanks for clearing that up. I did not know that. I just knew they took out the phrase describing a penalty in the 2013 session. Didn't know there was another gotcha phrase in there.
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Keep it in your pocket or put it in a lanyard under your shirt.

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I've carried a guys wallet for years. So much more convenient and they're just laid out better than ours. I also avoid the Murphy's law of everything going to the bottom of a purse when I need it and the ever popular "honey will you put this in your purse for me." The only time I actually carry a purse anymore is on date night when I'm wearing a dress.
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Liberty wrote:
ScottDLS wrote:
Technically, the penalty for not carrying it on you is a class A misdemeanor for Unlawful Carrying of a Weapon 46.02. The law says in order to be excepted from 46.02 you have to have your LTC on you. I don't think many prosecutors would try to get you, but do you want to be the (proverbial) test case?
Thanks for clearing that up. I did not know that. I just knew they took out the phrase describing a penalty in the 2013 session. Didn't know there was another gotcha phrase in there.
Right the gotcha phrase is in 46.15 where you don't get the exemption for 46.02 unless you're carrying your license. Now what's changed is MPA...you could be in your car without your license and not violate 46.02, but to carry outside your car or to open carry in your car, you still have to have your license on you...technically.
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ScottDLS wrote:to open carry in your car, you still have to have your license on you...technically.
Are you saying it is legal to have handgun visible in your car if you have LTC?
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