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Re: O'Reilly Factor

Postby rtschl » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:26 pm

Was never a huge fan of O'Reilly. I did like several of his guests - when he would let them talk.

I liked what Mark Davis (local DFW conservative radio host) said in his TownHall article here
But settling is not an admission of guilt. There are times when a prominent public figure will write a massive check to just make a story go away, even if it is false. The logic: if a salacious charge goes to trial, the public will long remember the damning testimony even if the defendant ultimately prevails. But among multiple settlements totaling millions of dollars, that argument takes a beating, especially as the list of accusers grows. Is it possible that these accusers are adding their voices to a vindictive chorus of lies, designed to bring O’Reilly down? Sure. It is also possible that O’Reilly is completely guilty and thoroughly deserves this fate.

It is being reported elsewhere that O'Reilly shut down his attorney submitting email proof of a left wing campaign to get the advertisers to leave. I have no doubt that left wing nuts helped fund the campaign and was effective. But I do not think it would have mattered because of the costs of the settlements and that his former boss Roger Ailes was no longer there to protect him.

It goes to the bottom line and protecting the brand and O'Reilly's image was hurting both by what looks to be a self inflicted wound.
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Re: O'Reilly Factor

Postby treadlightly » Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:54 pm

TVGuy wrote:No offense taken at all. Unfortunately, many of the big media companies have squeezed and squeezed on staff and expenses and in turn local TV news and other programming has been hurt. The product that many put out is garbage, especially in smaller markets. That's also why they are using stories from the TX Tribune.

Luckily, I would for one of the actual networks and in a top 5 market. My company has been spending money over the last several years in order for us to really make an impact.


Forgot to mention - it's nice to hear there are folks in media who grok guns.

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Re: O'Reilly Factor

Postby TVGuy » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:22 pm

treadlightly wrote:
TVGuy wrote:No offense taken at all. Unfortunately, many of the big media companies have squeezed and squeezed on staff and expenses and in turn local TV news and other programming has been hurt. The product that many put out is garbage, especially in smaller markets. That's also why they are using stories from the TX Tribune.

Luckily, I would for one of the actual networks and in a top 5 market. My company has been spending money over the last several years in order for us to really make an impact.


Forgot to mention - it's nice to hear there are folks in media who grok guns.

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Re: O'Reilly Factor

Postby Pariah3j » Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:45 pm

SQLGeek wrote:
Pariah3j wrote:One of the commentators I listen too had an interesting perspective on the matter - O'reilly had several of these suits/cases/allegations brought up previously, advertisers come and go - so why did Fox suddenly decide to drop him like a lead balloon ? Paying off the women were the cost of doing business, and they had been more then willing to pay the money to make it go away previously, so what changed ? Innocent until proven guilty, but you gotta wonder what the company knows that suddenly made them do a 180.


Roger Ailes isn't around anymore. After his sexual harassment scandal, I bet the current Fox News leadership is a bit more sensitive to this.


Well we aren't privy to what's being said behind closed doors, or the thought processes behind them, that was one of the points being made as well - I just thought it was an interesting point of view of 'what changed so suddenly' that this set of scandals was the tipping point. Maybe it is more sensitivity to the issue or perception of the issue like you suggested. But it could also mean that the latest allegations might have some inkling of truth or at least have the appearance of it.

Think of it this way, Fox News is what it is today because of O'Reilly. He didn't alone grow the network, but his popularity and ratings were a solid bedrock for them to build off of - if I remember correctly, I heard he has for at least something like the last 15 years dominated his time slot for cable news. No one in the category comes close. And up until this latest round of allegations, Fox has been willing to pay off/stand by him - that being the cost of 'doing business' much like companies that hired Howard Stern back in the day, knew they'd be paying FCC violation fees.

So something changed, and we're talking very recently. Parabelum suggested, the 'leftist Murdoch boys' but they aren't that recent I didn't think.
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Re: O'Reilly Factor

Postby Mxrdad » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:00 pm

This turned out to be pretty informative. I figured with all the connected devices these days, "Big Brother" knows everything we do. I really thought all the satellite providers (and cable providers) passed along what their viewers are watching. I'm glad our members in the business enlightened me, now I won't feel so guilty if I just glance at the other networks. :cheers2:

I agree with Abraham about no love for Fox. I know they aren't perfect but I couldn't imagine watching any other national news outlet, as far as TV. As far as I know, my provider doesn't provide any others that don't lean far left. I also noticed the same about the local news; Local Fox News only touches on any world events and move on to local stuff, thank goodness.

Kennedy is a hoot and she keeps it pretty much neutral.

ETA: I just turned on the Fox Channel and whats on? The Factor. Not O'R Factor. Greg G is hosting this one tonight. Don't know if its temporary or permanent.
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Re: O'Reilly Factor

Postby The Annoyed Man » Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:06 pm

dale blanker wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:I don't watch Fox News any longer. In fact, I mostly don't watch anything except local news these days. I get my state and national news from selected websites. The one national news channel I watch.....occasionally.....is One America News (http://www.oann.com).

TAM, it looks like OANN gets about everything from Reuters.com. Why not just go there?

I do appreciate your thoughtful perspective on stuff - thanks...

Mostly because Reuters doesn't do little educational featurettes the the meaning of the Constitution, its various amendments, and how our political processes work. In fact, Reuters would like for you and me to know less about it, rather than more.

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Re: O'Reilly Factor

Postby dale blanker » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:16 am

The Annoyed Man wrote:
dale blanker wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:I don't watch Fox News any longer. In fact, I mostly don't watch anything except local news these days. I get my state and national news from selected websites. The one national news channel I watch.....occasionally.....is One America News (http://www.oann.com).

TAM, it looks like OANN gets about everything from Reuters.com. Why not just go there?

I do appreciate your thoughtful perspective on stuff - thanks...

Mostly because Reuters doesn't do little educational featurettes the the meaning of the Constitution, its various amendments, and how our political processes work. In fact, Reuters would like for you and me to know less about it, rather than more.

Examples:

[reflections from Coolidge, T. Roosevelt, Liz Wheeler, Neil deGrasse Tyson, and more]

The OANN website looks very informative, interesting, and educational and is now in my browser's bookmarks. What really sold me was the Neil deGrasse Tyson presentations. I've seen most of his talk to Skeptics and want to see more. That presentation is similar to one I took my grandson son to when Tyson was in Austin last year. What a neat guy - too bad he wouldn't run for office...

Tyson has also done a podcast about "Science and Truth" that I would recommend. His point is that those things don't seem to count as much anymore. More folks seem to believe stuff that denies existing scientific data. He believes this trend is very bad for our democracy.
Thanks again for your input on OANN - looks like a good substiture for Fox News... :tiphat:
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Re: O'Reilly Factor

Postby Flightmare » Sat Apr 22, 2017 2:22 pm

dale blanker wrote:[He believes this trend is very bad for our democracy.
Thanks again for your input on OANN - looks like a good substiture for Fox News... :tiphat:


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Re: O'Reilly Factor

Postby Abraham » Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:31 pm

Yeah, in this world, I like Fox News, with the exception of some of their lefties like S. Smith or B. Beckel, who both make me gag.

I haven't a clue what OANN is, but I'll do a bit of looking into it. Actually, I won't but will ask SWMBO to do it for me as she IS a computer guru, a recently retired professional in the space industry. Me, I'm a card carrying Luddite of sorts, though to be sure, not entirely or I wouldn't be here.

Except for this site and one other and email, that's the extent of my internet diddling.

No fb for me, or app this, (no eye glazed, gob stopping, continuous gazing at a phone for me) snap-whatever, insta-bore, or the plethora of other crapola internet this or that. Get a life for you that have given over your life to all things internet.

While I spend a bit of time here, making me something of a hypocrite-light, I do talk to my wife, (actually I can't speak any longer so I do a lot of mime) and other loved ones without any (or ever) electronic interruption.

Back to Fox News and you that find fault with it: First find fault with all the completely, unabashedly leftist so-called news sources...then, sure find fault with one of the very few conservative voices to be heard on tv.


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