An Eye for an Eye
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An Eye for an Eye
Let's examine the statement "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" for a moment.
We have two groups of people that we are examining here: the eye pokers and the eye poked.
Let's assume that the number of eye pokers is a small subset of the entire population.
Let's also assume that eye pokers do not poke eye pokers, only non-eye pokers.
Let's, finally, assume that eye pokers eye poke until they are themselves eye poked by a governmental eye poking agency(not considered an eye poker for the purpose of this discussion).
Scenario 1:
If we do not remove the eye pokers eyes, they can still see to poke more eyes.
If this occurs, the eye poking will continue by the eye pokers indiscriminately, at which point the eye pokers will be the only ones that have not been eye poked(not blind).
Scenario 2:
If we do poke the eye poker's eyes, then the eye pokers will no longer be able to effectively poke eyes.
In this case, eye pokers are only able to eye poke one individual each, since after the initial eye-poking, the poker has his or her eyes poked by the governmental eye poking agency.
In this scenario, the number of eye pokers is equal to the number of eye poked(Note that I am grouping the eye pokers separately from the eye poked even though all eye pokers are also eye poked)
Given the above, "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" is impossible because the eye pokers make up only a small portion of the population.
Let's use some actual percents here:
Let's say Eye Pokers make up 15% of the entire population.
Scenario 1 leaves 85% of the population blind. (100% Population - 15% Eye Pokers)
Scenario 2 leaves 30% of the population blind. (15% Eye poked Eye Pokers + 15% Eye Poked Non-Eye Pokers)
Scenario 2 gets worse if we remove the assumption that eye pokers do not eye poke other eye pokers.
In that case, the entire population is eye poked except for the last eye poker that hasn't been eye poked(assuming that the eye poker doesn't get bored and poke his or her own eyes).
Scenario 1 gets better if we remove the governmental eye poking agency and arm the entire population with preemptive eye poke defense devices, referred to PEPDD from this point forward.
A PEPDD works by blocking the eye poke and eye poking the original eye poke initiator(Use of a PEPDD to eye poke does not, for this discussion, transform the individual wielding the PEPDD into an eye poker)
In this case, only the 15% of the population of would-be eye pokers end up blind.
Edit: Fixed grammatical error
We have two groups of people that we are examining here: the eye pokers and the eye poked.
Let's assume that the number of eye pokers is a small subset of the entire population.
Let's also assume that eye pokers do not poke eye pokers, only non-eye pokers.
Let's, finally, assume that eye pokers eye poke until they are themselves eye poked by a governmental eye poking agency(not considered an eye poker for the purpose of this discussion).
Scenario 1:
If we do not remove the eye pokers eyes, they can still see to poke more eyes.
If this occurs, the eye poking will continue by the eye pokers indiscriminately, at which point the eye pokers will be the only ones that have not been eye poked(not blind).
Scenario 2:
If we do poke the eye poker's eyes, then the eye pokers will no longer be able to effectively poke eyes.
In this case, eye pokers are only able to eye poke one individual each, since after the initial eye-poking, the poker has his or her eyes poked by the governmental eye poking agency.
In this scenario, the number of eye pokers is equal to the number of eye poked(Note that I am grouping the eye pokers separately from the eye poked even though all eye pokers are also eye poked)
Given the above, "an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" is impossible because the eye pokers make up only a small portion of the population.
Let's use some actual percents here:
Let's say Eye Pokers make up 15% of the entire population.
Scenario 1 leaves 85% of the population blind. (100% Population - 15% Eye Pokers)
Scenario 2 leaves 30% of the population blind. (15% Eye poked Eye Pokers + 15% Eye Poked Non-Eye Pokers)
Scenario 2 gets worse if we remove the assumption that eye pokers do not eye poke other eye pokers.
In that case, the entire population is eye poked except for the last eye poker that hasn't been eye poked(assuming that the eye poker doesn't get bored and poke his or her own eyes).
Scenario 1 gets better if we remove the governmental eye poking agency and arm the entire population with preemptive eye poke defense devices, referred to PEPDD from this point forward.
A PEPDD works by blocking the eye poke and eye poking the original eye poke initiator(Use of a PEPDD to eye poke does not, for this discussion, transform the individual wielding the PEPDD into an eye poker)
In this case, only the 15% of the population of would-be eye pokers end up blind.
Edit: Fixed grammatical error
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Re: An Eye for an Eye
I think history would indicate that there would be eye poker on eye poker eye poking.
Now if you poked my eye which would make you an eye poker and I poked your eye in return, am I also then an eye poker or just a vindicated eye pokee?
Now if you poked my eye which would make you an eye poker and I poked your eye in return, am I also then an eye poker or just a vindicated eye pokee?
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Re: An Eye for an Eye
I think some of us have WAAAAAAAAY too much time on our hands. Must be time to hit the range!
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No, see, it doesn't work that way.jmra wrote:Now if you poked my eye which would make you an eye poker and I poked your eye in return, am I also then an eye poker or just a vindicated eye pokee?
When someone is eye poked, he or she loses all eye poking ability.
So if you were eye poked, the only way to become a "vindicated eye pokee" would be to hire a mercenary eye poker.
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I tried using Fast Orange to wash the time off of my hands, but it didn't work.lonewolf wrote:I think some of us have WAAAAAAAAY too much time on our hands. Must be time to hit the range!
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Re: An Eye for an Eye
How many eyes could an eye-poker poke if an eye-poker could poke eyes?
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Re: An Eye for an Eye
If somebody poked somebody's eye in the forest and you couldn't see it because you had your eye poked out did somebody get their eye poked?The Annoyed Man wrote:How many eyes could an eye-poker poke if an eye-poker could poke eyes?
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Re: An Eye for an Eye
Little Miss Muffet,WildBill wrote:If somebody poked somebody's eye in the forest and you couldn't see it because you had your eye poked out did somebody get their eye poked?The Annoyed Man wrote:How many eyes could an eye-poker poke if an eye-poker could poke eyes?
Sat on her tuffet,
Poking her sis in the eye.
Along came a spider,
Sat down beside her,
Took aim and said, "an eye for an eye."
...or something...
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Re: An Eye for an Eye
If I were in the Navy and got an order, I could say "Eye-Eye Captain".The Annoyed Man wrote:Little Miss Muffet,WildBill wrote:If somebody poked somebody's eye in the forest and you couldn't see it because you had your eye poked out did somebody get their eye poked?The Annoyed Man wrote:How many eyes could an eye-poker poke if an eye-poker could poke eyes?
Sat on her tuffet,
Poking her sis in the eye.
Along came a spider,
Sat down beside her,
Took aim and said, "an eye for an eye."
...or something...
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Re: An Eye for an Eye
When an eye poker pokes an eye pokee, does the eye poker poke the eye pokee in only one eye or is it a double poking?
If the poker pokes only one eye then the OP statistics change as it then becomes possible to poke after you have been poked and an individual could be the victim of multiple pokes.
If the poker pokes only one eye then the OP statistics change as it then becomes possible to poke after you have been poked and an individual could be the victim of multiple pokes.
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Re: An Eye for an Eye
"One bleeding-heart type asked me in a recent interview if I did not agree that 'violence begets violence.'
I told him that it is my earnest endeavor to see that it does. I would like very much to ensure - and in some cases I have - that any man who offers violence to his fellow citizen begets a whole lot more in return than he can enjoy." - Jeff Cooper
I told him that it is my earnest endeavor to see that it does. I would like very much to ensure - and in some cases I have - that any man who offers violence to his fellow citizen begets a whole lot more in return than he can enjoy." - Jeff Cooper
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Re: An Eye for an Eye
Let's assume, for this discussion, that each person only has one eye.jmra wrote:When an eye poker pokes an eye pokee, does the eye poker poke the eye pokee in only one eye or is it a double poking?
If the poker pokes only one eye then the OP statistics change as it then becomes possible to poke after you have been poked and an individual could be the victim of multiple pokes.
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An eye poker would poke as many eyes as an eye poker could poke if an eye poker could poke eyes... hmm... just not the same without woodchucks.The Annoyed Man wrote:How many eyes could an eye-poker poke if an eye-poker could poke eyes?