Or a revolver...Abraham wrote:I've more than once read in novels of a guy taking the safety off of a Glock.
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Saw a scene from a movie where Bruce Willis shoots a kid. He points a Super Blackhawk at him and BANG. Didn't even have to cock it
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I can't remember what I was watching the other night when a guy pulled out a Glock and the sound effect was of a revolver cocking. Twice.
I watch the series Grimm, and it has somebody in the writing/plot team that knows a little bit about guns. Not that they don't stretch things for dramatic effect on occasion, but they also sometimes include details about guns and ammunition that you would think only a gunny would know or care about. In one episode some part of plot turned on the knowledge that 9x19mm ammo was also 9mm parabellum and originated in Germany, and IIRC they worked in si vis pacem, para bellum, which aside from its direct meaning was also the motto of DWM, who first produced 9mm Luger (ammo and pistol). I have a friend who works on the show; he's a gunny, but I don't think he interacts with the writers.
I watch the series Grimm, and it has somebody in the writing/plot team that knows a little bit about guns. Not that they don't stretch things for dramatic effect on occasion, but they also sometimes include details about guns and ammunition that you would think only a gunny would know or care about. In one episode some part of plot turned on the knowledge that 9x19mm ammo was also 9mm parabellum and originated in Germany, and IIRC they worked in si vis pacem, para bellum, which aside from its direct meaning was also the motto of DWM, who first produced 9mm Luger (ammo and pistol). I have a friend who works on the show; he's a gunny, but I don't think he interacts with the writers.
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Every time a gun is unholstered in TV or film it makes incessant clicking sounds. I sometimes pull my pistol just to assure myself it won't be noisy.
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Yeah, the noisy pistols and rifles in gun scenes is silly. Reminds me of the police and soldier all yelling "hut, hut, hut" in Blues Brothers.Jaguar wrote:Every time a gun is unholstered in TV or film it makes incessant clicking sounds. I sometimes pull my pistol just to assure myself it won't be noisy.
I recall on the Jason Borne movie, some "tactical" guys were arming up in a van on the way to a job and one guys was loading a magazine. They are a couple minutes away and he is loading maagazine.
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It's hard to beat a character running through a kitchen in the middle of a gun fight and hiding behind a refrigerator door that stops bullets cold.
Don't know about you, but I'd hate to have to move one of those armor plated fridges.
Don't know about you, but I'd hate to have to move one of those armor plated fridges.
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Well of course a refrigerator stops them "cold." Did you expect 'warm" from a refrigerator?Scott B. wrote:It's hard to beat a character running through a kitchen in the middle of a gun fight and hiding behind a refrigerator door that stops bullets cold.
Don't know about you, but I'd hate to have to move one of those armor plated fridges.
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[youtube][/youtube]Jumping Frog wrote:Putting a suppressor on a revolver.
To my knowledge, most of the lingo is either made up on the spot by the actors or an "expert" fills in the blanks after the script is written. The writers just add a note like "gun lingo" so somebody else can deal with it.ELB wrote:I can't remember what I was watching the other night when a guy pulled out a Glock and the sound effect was of a revolver cocking. Twice.
I watch the series Grimm, and it has somebody in the writing/plot team that knows a little bit about guns. Not that they don't stretch things for dramatic effect on occasion, but they also sometimes include details about guns and ammunition that you would think only a gunny would know or care about. In one episode some part of plot turned on the knowledge that 9x19mm ammo was also 9mm parabellum and originated in Germany, and IIRC they worked in si vis pacem, para bellum, which aside from its direct meaning was also the motto of DWM, who first produced 9mm Luger (ammo and pistol). I have a friend who works on the show; he's a gunny, but I don't think he interacts with the writers.
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[youtube][/youtube]G26ster wrote:Well of course a refrigerator stops them "cold." Did you expect 'warm" from a refrigerator?Scott B. wrote:It's hard to beat a character running through a kitchen in the middle of a gun fight and hiding behind a refrigerator door that stops bullets cold.
Don't know about you, but I'd hate to have to move one of those armor plated fridges.
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I'm sure that happens, but in this particular episode the specific knowledge was integral to the plot, and they've occasionally done this in other episodes. I was quite surprised, given the usual level of TV gun-handling and knowledge.dcphoto wrote:
To my knowledge, most of the lingo is either made up on the spot by the actors or an "expert" fills in the blanks after the script is written. The writers just add a note like "gun lingo" so somebody else can deal with it.
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I'll leave most of the firearm inaccuracies to you guys. But the one big one that bothers me the most I will mention, and that is the one shot that completely incapacitates the bad guy. Bang! He's down, threat over.
Let me preface the rest by pointing out that I'm neither LEO, mil or ex-mil. I've no tactical training, so that probably puts me closer to the "general public" than a lot of you guys. Still, I have to roll my eyes and sigh when:
*The good guy is sneaking up on the bad guy, and his shoes sound like he's got taps on them. All bad guys must be deaf.
*The good guy throws away his gun/knife or what ever to make it a "fair fight."
*The good guys are escaping the bad guys by running up/down a stair well. They check doors on every floor until they find one unlocked and duck into it. The bad guys go right past, never checking any door.
*Standing there with your gun pointed at somebody who has their gun pointed at you, and talking rather than shooting.
*The good guys putting their guns down so the bad guy will talk to them.
*Entering an area (room/warehouse) backlight from the outside.
*Professional assassins being fooled by a drug that slows the heart, and not busting cap in the good guy's head to be sure.
There are many more, and as I think of them I may come back and add to this list. Right now I've got to meet my wife.
Let me preface the rest by pointing out that I'm neither LEO, mil or ex-mil. I've no tactical training, so that probably puts me closer to the "general public" than a lot of you guys. Still, I have to roll my eyes and sigh when:
*The good guy is sneaking up on the bad guy, and his shoes sound like he's got taps on them. All bad guys must be deaf.
*The good guy throws away his gun/knife or what ever to make it a "fair fight."
*The good guys are escaping the bad guys by running up/down a stair well. They check doors on every floor until they find one unlocked and duck into it. The bad guys go right past, never checking any door.
*Standing there with your gun pointed at somebody who has their gun pointed at you, and talking rather than shooting.
*The good guys putting their guns down so the bad guy will talk to them.
*Entering an area (room/warehouse) backlight from the outside.
*Professional assassins being fooled by a drug that slows the heart, and not busting cap in the good guy's head to be sure.
There are many more, and as I think of them I may come back and add to this list. Right now I've got to meet my wife.
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Come on... By far the worst offender the tv series ATeam... Every shoot out they expend somewhere around a thousand rounds of automatic rifle fire and no one I mean not one person gets shot up or killed...
I love it when a plan comes together!
I love it when a plan comes together!
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but a lot of Jeep CJs roll over, which is cool...Syntyr wrote:Come on... By far the worst offender the tv series ATeam... Every shoot out they expend somewhere around a thousand rounds of automatic rifle fire and no one I mean not one person gets shot up or killed...
I love it when a plan comes together!
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Well, they were shooting Mini-14's, so what do you expect?Syntyr wrote:Come on... By far the worst offender the tv series ATeam... Every shoot out they expend somewhere around a thousand rounds of automatic rifle fire and no one I mean not one person gets shot up or killed...
I love it when a plan comes together!
I like how they always armor plate some vehicle to make it bullet proof and everything bounes off without putting any dents in the plate. Of course, no bullet hits the same point where it might go through.
Last time I watched The Gauntlet, I noticed the movie doesn't how Clint Eastwood armoring the roof of the bus, but he must have as a few hundred guys with M16's, shotguns, and pistols are shooting down through the roof. And there is no friendly fire with cops shooting from all directions. Richochets and fragments would have gotten some of them.