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automotive experts?
Do we have any automotive experts on the forum? I need some advice about air suspension kits.
I have been retired a couple of years and in August we bought a new Dodge Durango. My wife has been wanting one for years. I knew the ride would be rough but since this is probably going to be our last car I thought I could put up with it.
Well I have metal rods and screws in my back and nerve damage to my left leg and found out I can’t handle the ride. It has the low profile tires which I am sure contributes to this.
I have been looking on the web
http://www.autoanything.com/suspension- ... 044A1.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and http://www.autoanything.com/suspension- ... 044A1.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
My question is do air ride kits smooth the ride enough to justify the expense? Also do these kits have two or four air bags?
I would appreciate any information I can get.
I have been retired a couple of years and in August we bought a new Dodge Durango. My wife has been wanting one for years. I knew the ride would be rough but since this is probably going to be our last car I thought I could put up with it.
Well I have metal rods and screws in my back and nerve damage to my left leg and found out I can’t handle the ride. It has the low profile tires which I am sure contributes to this.
I have been looking on the web
http://www.autoanything.com/suspension- ... 044A1.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and http://www.autoanything.com/suspension- ... 044A1.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
My question is do air ride kits smooth the ride enough to justify the expense? Also do these kits have two or four air bags?
I would appreciate any information I can get.
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Exspert ? No
Significant exsperance And worked as a motorcycle and truck tech yes.
I'm on my phone and teaching a class now, will look at your links later.
Generally air bags in addition to the stock suspension do not make for a more gentle ride, they are for load control.
Air bags that replace the stock suspension CAN make for a smoother ride but it greatly depends on the auto being installed on and the air bag system itself.
Yes low profile 20" and larger tires with heaver wheels do contribute to a rougher ride in general
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I'm on my phone and teaching a class now, will look at your links later.
Generally air bags in addition to the stock suspension do not make for a more gentle ride, they are for load control.
Air bags that replace the stock suspension CAN make for a smoother ride but it greatly depends on the auto being installed on and the air bag system itself.
Yes low profile 20" and larger tires with heaver wheels do contribute to a rougher ride in general
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Air ride with a compressor is adjustable for ride based on pressure. Airbags do leak after time and require replacment.
IM a fan of progressive rate springs, for that reason.
IM a fan of progressive rate springs, for that reason.
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Personally I don't believe anything you do is going to have a major impact on improving the ride of the vehicle. Too much goes into original design that factors into the ride. There are a lot of things you can do to make it worse, but not a lot to make it better.
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The links you have point to are what I would use for leveling the vehicle when loaded or pulling a trailer and will most likely add to the problem instead of make it better. In my opinion, short of re-engineering the suspension the thing most likely to help would be to rid yourself of the low profile wheels/tires. Many people don't understand the tire is part of the suspension. They can and will make a huge difference...
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Thanks for the good information everyone. I am going to keep looking and asking questions. There has to be something that will help at least a little bit.
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Would shocks designed for a softer ride not help? Maybe some adjustable air shocks?
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I don't know. I will have to ask around. Any one else have an opinion?mojo84 wrote:Would shocks designed for a softer ride not help? Maybe some adjustable air shocks?
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Hope you are able to figure out something that will help smooth it out for you.
There may be some good info here. http://www.autotrader.com/research/arti ... e-size.jsp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There may be some good info here. http://www.autotrader.com/research/arti ... e-size.jsp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Call Dodge. Ask to speak with someone in engineering & tell them your about your dilemma. Be persistent about talking to the right person who can help. Then you might want to call one of the shock absorber manufacturers.
Different tires and shocks will change the ride, the question though - will it be enough?
Different tires and shocks will change the ride, the question though - will it be enough?
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Ok, so, short of redesigning the suspension with an air ride (not add on air bags) apropret wheels and tires, I dont think your going to get what yoru looking for.
Have you considered an upgraded seat?
A suspension seat if available for that platform, or custom installed (to include the air bag interface) would make a HUGE difference in felt shock to the spine, head and neck.
Have you considered an upgraded seat?
A suspension seat if available for that platform, or custom installed (to include the air bag interface) would make a HUGE difference in felt shock to the spine, head and neck.
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Does the Durango have leaf springs?
I knew of somone that removed several leafs off of their 3/4 ton suburban and added airbags to soften the ride.
They were happy with the results. I am not sure if a similiar option would work on the Durango.
I knew of somone that removed several leafs off of their 3/4 ton suburban and added airbags to soften the ride.
They were happy with the results. I am not sure if a similiar option would work on the Durango.
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The best solution as mentioned previously may be to put in some better seats. The link below for air ride seats may just fit the bill for you
http://www.industrialseats.com/category ... egoryID=23
http://www.industrialseats.com/category ... egoryID=23
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mojo84 wrote:Would shocks designed for a softer ride not help? Maybe some adjustable air shocks?
If the stock shocks are over or under dampened, then shocks may significantly help the ride.
Like airbags, typically air shocks are used for additional load capacity. You can often get adjustable shocks (no additional load capacity) that offer different dampening and rebound rates, but they're expensive.
The Durango is IFS (probably coil spring or torsion bar) up front. I was going to throw out that springs may have settled or are worn, but that's not going to be the case on a newer car.
I agree with the air bag assessment. True air ride - like in big RVs may change how the vehicle rides, but the addition of air bags is only likely to make the existing springs seem more harsh.
I'd reach out on the Dodge Durago forums - see if this is a common issue and if there is anything application specific to address it.
If the Durango has an optional wheel/tire package - you could let that go. Install smaller wheels, with larger aspect ratio tires. My father in law has the hemi truck on 20" wheels - the wheels along make it ride pretty harsh.
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have you considered a good seat cushion like airhawk? These may help. I have used them for very rough riding equipment and they make a big difference. I don't know if it would be right for you, but it might be worth a look.
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