Bexar County deputies shoot man during disturbance call

[Javier730]

"He kind of just put his hands in the air. After he put his hands in the air, they shot him," Thomas said.

The video cuts off so we can not see if the suspect reached for a weapon or charged the deputies. The rest of the video should surface pretty soon. I hope people don't start rioting like in Baltimore or St. Louis.

http://www.ksat.com/news/exclusive-vide ... d-shooting

[Charlies.Contingency]

I hate to be the one to say it, but if race were to be a factor for rioting and such as it has been across the country, then there won't be any. It appears that all parties involved are either hispanic or white.

This does seem odd, and I look forward to finding out more about this story.

[Javier730]

This does seem odd, and I look forward to finding out more about this story.

I'll post what I see in the media.

[Javier730]

This does seem odd, and I look forward to finding out more about this story.

I'll post what I see in the media.

http://www.expressnews.com/news/local/a ... 475055.php

[Charlies.Contingency]

This does seem odd, and I look forward to finding out more about this story.

I'll post what I see in the media.

http://www.expressnews.com/news/local/a ... 475055.php

That doesn't seem very good IMO.

[Countryside]

Okay, let us remember that this is the new media. There was a time when they existed for the purpose of reporting news, but those days are gone. What you have is carefully crafted pseudo-reporting. First of all, the video is very poor quality, and secondly we did not see everything that happened. Could be a "bad" shooting? It could be. But notice how this has been done. Incomplete video shown (on purpose.) Incomplete details being presented. Without knowing any real facts it was intentionally presented as a man being shot with his hands up. Why...because another new station may have gotten the story before them. Also something that needs to be remembered is that there is another video somewhere that we have not seen. They could have said that a man has been shot by officers after responding to a domestic disturbance...we're still waiting for more details. But that would not have been near as attention-getting as they way they did it. No longer is it about getting facts and being accurate...it is getting the story first and presenting it in a way so as to get peoples attention.

[Charlies.Contingency]

Okay, let us remember that this is the new media. There was a time when they existed for the purpose of reporting news, but those days are gone. What you have is carefully crafted pseudo-reporting. First of all, the video is very poor quality, and secondly we did not see everything that happened. Could be a "bad" shooting? It could be. But notice how this has been done. Incomplete video shown (on purpose.) Incomplete details being presented. Without knowing any real facts it was intentionally presented as a man being shot with his hands up. Why...because another new station may have gotten the story before them. Also something that needs to be remembered is that there is another video somewhere that we have not seen. They could have said that a man has been shot by officers after responding to a domestic disturbance...we're still waiting for more details. But that would not have been near as attention-getting as they way they did it. No longer is it about getting facts and being accurate...it is getting the story first and presenting it in a way so as to get peoples attention.

I know that very well, but it still doesn't change the situation. Susan is hardly ever closed mouthed about situations like this, so that os odd to me. Secondly, each officer fired one shot only, odd to me personally. Third, the video does show the deceased put his hands up shortly before the shooting. He wasn't wearing a shirt, so the only place he could have hidden a weapon is his pockets IMO.

I would like to know how this actually happened. End of story.

[Javier730]

Full video. It doesn't look like he reached for anything or like he posed a threat at that point.

http://www.ksat.com/news/ksatcom-exclus ... d-shooting

[Countryside]

Okay, let us remember that this is the new media. There was a time when they existed for the purpose of reporting news, but those days are gone. What you have is carefully crafted pseudo-reporting. First of all, the video is very poor quality, and secondly we did not see everything that happened. Could be a "bad" shooting? It could be. But notice how this has been done. Incomplete video shown (on purpose.) Incomplete details being presented. Without knowing any real facts it was intentionally presented as a man being shot with his hands up. Why...because another new station may have gotten the story before them. Also something that needs to be remembered is that there is another video somewhere that we have not seen. They could have said that a man has been shot by officers after responding to a domestic disturbance...we're still waiting for more details. But that would not have been near as attention-getting as they way they did it. No longer is it about getting facts and being accurate...it is getting the story first and presenting it in a way so as to get peoples attention.

I know that very well, but it still doesn't change the situation. Susan is hardly ever closed mouthed about situations like this, so that os odd to me. Secondly, each officer fired one shot only, odd to me personally. Third, the video does show the deceased put his hands up shortly before the shooting. He wasn't wearing a shirt, so the only place he could have hidden a weapon is his pockets IMO.

I would like to know how this actually happened. End of story.

Me, too. I watched the unedited video...a little shakey and slightly blurry...but it does appear he had his hands up (or out). Not good...not good.

[Countryside]

Just read some more on the story...it really isn't looking good for the Sheriff's deputies. It said they had already tried non-lethal tactics....Tazers failed. There is nothing as yet to indicate he was armed. I was in LE for nearly 10 years. In such a situation me and another officer would have probably have just rushed him and taken him down to the sidewalk. We had to take down lots of people down on drugs and wrestle them. It wasn't easy at all....but we didn't shoot them. This has me curious....is LE training now focusing so much on using things like tazers and not using non-lethal physical force to take them down and cuff them?

[EEllis]

Full video. It doesn't look like he reached for anything or like he posed a threat at that point.

http://www.ksat.com/news/ksatcom-exclus ... d-shooting

A video that far away, that shaky, and without sound of the incident, is only really useful to verify statements against.

[Javier730]

Here is another witness who claims he was trying to record but says he was told to leave. It appears the only less than lethal used was the shield. I wonder if either of the deputies had a taser they could of used.


Sorry for those of you not fluent in espanol.
http://www.examiner.com/article/texas-c ... ce-account

[Javier730]

Full video. It doesn't look like he reached for anything or like he posed a threat at that point.

http://www.ksat.com/news/ksatcom-exclus ... d-shooting

A video that far away, that shaky, and without sound of the incident, is only really useful to verify statements against.

I'm sure we could tell even from this sloppy video like this one, that the man didn't charge the deputies or reach for a weapon. He may have been threatening but the only audio you can make out from the incident is the gun shots. I'm sure if he did charge, we could of clearly seen it. If he was armed it would of been mentioned by the sheriffs office by now.

[Taypo]

If he did indeed beat up on his wife and kid, I'm not going to lose a wink of sleep over this. It's unfortunate that the officers involved are probably going to be tried and convicted in the court of the media, but they did the community a service regardless.

[old farmer]

If he did indeed beat up on his wife and kid, I'm not going to lose a wink of sleep over this. It's unfortunate that the officers involved are probably going to be tried and convicted in the court of the media, but they did the community a service regardless.

NO.