I believe you are talking about Special Relativity.Beiruty wrote:General Relativity and the concept of time, that can shrink, elongate and stop is all relative. Einstein selected the speed of light as a constant. However, speed is a measurement of movement of an object relative to fixed frame of coordinates(space) per unit of time. However, space also is not fixed and can be wrapped. So, how come speed of light is fixed and not the unit of time??!!!
In addition, Einstein says light cannot escape a blackhole, so what it means light velocity is 0 and not the C, or time is always is 0 or both are 0.
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I would define time as the duration between events. But then how do you define duration without referring to time?Lynyrd wrote:Space/time? I once had a deep philosophical discussion about the concept of time. In it's best form, a definition cannot use words that derive their meaning from the word being defined. So, how do you define time. Seconds, minutes, hours, days, years are all units of time. But to give a good definition, you cannot use terms that derive their meaning from the concept of "time." So how does one define time? During that philosophical discussion, we pondered as we imbibed. Ponder as well my friends. We came up with a definition. Can you? This pertains to Einstein's theory directly, or space and time would not have a correlation.
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Time, is simply d/vWildBill wrote:I believe you are talking about Special Relativity.Beiruty wrote:Special Relativity and the concept of time, that can shrink, elongate and stop is all relative. Einstein selected the speed of light as a constant. However, speed is a measurement of movement of an object relative to fixed frame of coordinates(space) per unit of time. However, space also is not fixed and can be wrapped. So, how come speed of light is fixed and not the unit of time??!!!
In addition, Einstein says light cannot escape a blackhole, so what it means light velocity is 0 and not the C, or time is always is 0 or both are 0.
I would define time as the duration between events. But then how do you define duration without referring to time?
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And that is exactly the problem with DEFINING time.WildBill wrote: I would define time as the duration between events. But then how do you define duration without referring to time?
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Beiruty wrote:Time, is simply d/vWildBill wrote:I believe you are talking about Special Relativity.Beiruty wrote:Special Relativity and the concept of time, that can shrink, elongate and stop is all relative. Einstein selected the speed of light as a constant. However, speed is a measurement of movement of an object relative to fixed frame of coordinates(space) per unit of time. However, space also is not fixed and can be wrapped. So, how come speed of light is fixed and not the unit of time??!!!
In addition, Einstein says light cannot escape a blackhole, so what it means light velocity is 0 and not the C, or time is always is 0 or both are 0.
I would define time as the duration between events. But then how do you define duration without referring to time?
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I need to imbibe some liquid refreshment.Lynyrd wrote:And that is exactly the problem with DEFINING time.WildBill wrote: I would define time as the duration between events. But then how do you define duration without referring to time?
This whole thread is taking up too much of my time.
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Proper time or coordinate time? Observers?WildBill wrote:I would define time as the duration between events. But then how do you define duration without referring to time?Lynyrd wrote:Space/time? I once had a deep philosophical discussion about the concept of time. In it's best form, a definition cannot use words that derive their meaning from the word being defined. So, how do you define time. Seconds, minutes, hours, days, years are all units of time. But to give a good definition, you cannot use terms that derive their meaning from the concept of "time." So how does one define time? During that philosophical discussion, we pondered as we imbibed. Ponder as well my friends. We came up with a definition. Can you? This pertains to Einstein's theory directly, or space and time would not have a correlation.
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WildBill wrote:I need to imbibe some liquid refreshment.Lynyrd wrote:And that is exactly the problem with DEFINING time.WildBill wrote: I would define time as the duration between events. But then how do you define duration without referring to time?
This whole thread is taking up too much of my time.
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Good to see you posting Dadtodabone! Heard any good music lately?Dadtodabone wrote:Proper time or coordinate time? Observers?WildBill wrote:I would define time as the duration between events. But then how do you define duration without referring to time?Lynyrd wrote:Space/time? I once had a deep philosophical discussion about the concept of time. In it's best form, a definition cannot use words that derive their meaning from the word being defined. So, how do you define time. Seconds, minutes, hours, days, years are all units of time. But to give a good definition, you cannot use terms that derive their meaning from the concept of "time." So how does one define time? During that philosophical discussion, we pondered as we imbibed. Ponder as well my friends. We came up with a definition. Can you? This pertains to Einstein's theory directly, or space and time would not have a correlation.
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We run out of Soda, time for some coffee.Lynyrd wrote:WildBill wrote:I need to imbibe some liquid refreshment.Lynyrd wrote:And that is exactly the problem with DEFINING time.WildBill wrote: I would define time as the duration between events. But then how do you define duration without referring to time?
This whole thread is taking up too much of my time.
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I was once asked if a car was traveling at the speed of light and turned on it's headlights would any light escape? I answered with a question. Is the car in forward or reverse? The guy moved on to the next question?Beiruty wrote:Special Relativity and the concept of time, that can shrink, elongate and stop is all relative. Einstein selected the speed of light as a constant. However, speed is a measurement of movement of an object relative to fixed frame of coordinates(space) per unit of time. However, space also is not fixed and can be wrapped. So, how come speed of light is fixed and not the unit of time??!!!
In addition, Einstein says light cannot escape a blackhole, so what it means light velocity is 0 and not the C, or time is always is 0 or both are 0.
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As for black holes I don't know if anything can escape. I do know that Borger, Texas is the closest I've ever been to a black hole. I spent a week there one night.puma guy wrote:I was once asked if a car was traveling at the speed of light and turned on it's headlights would any light escape? I answered with a question. Is the car in forward or reverse? The guy moved on to the next question?Beiruty wrote:Special Relativity and the concept of time, that can shrink, elongate and stop is all relative. Einstein selected the speed of light as a constant. However, speed is a measurement of movement of an object relative to fixed frame of coordinates(space) per unit of time. However, space also is not fixed and can be wrapped. So, how come speed of light is fixed and not the unit of time??!!!
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Once, I was stuck in Lodi, again. Does that count?puma guy wrote:As for black holes I don't know if anything can escape. I do know that Borger, Texas is the closest I've ever been to a black hole. I spent a week there one night.puma guy wrote:I was once asked if a car was traveling at the speed of light and turned on it's headlights would any light escape? I answered with a question. Is the car in forward or reverse? The guy moved on to the next question?Beiruty wrote:Special Relativity and the concept of time, that can shrink, elongate and stop is all relative. Einstein selected the speed of light as a constant. However, speed is a measurement of movement of an object relative to fixed frame of coordinates(space) per unit of time. However, space also is not fixed and can be wrapped. So, how come speed of light is fixed and not the unit of time??!!!
In addition, Einstein says light cannot escape a blackhole, so what it means light velocity is 0 and not the C, or time is always is 0 or both are 0.
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