Rifles are better than handguns in a firefight

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K.Mooneyham wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 12:44 pm This was an obvious gangland hit, and there likely will be reprisal killings. Everyone who abuses drugs enables this stuff.
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03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:22 pm
ScottDLS wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:03 pm
eyedoc wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 5:59 pm
dlh wrote: Sat Dec 11, 2021 5:24 pm One or two of the handguns appeared to be firing on automatic.
The down comments to the video mentioned "switches" and I assume they are talking about those
illegal devices made in China. Hopefully those do not make it into the USA.
Chicago and Houston are dangerous enough.
They convert Glocks to Auto and are available mail order from China. You can even 3D print them. They are here.
They're clearly in US territories now... :???:
I think someone even posted a link to a site selling them on the Houston thread about this. Didn't someone in here say they were technically legal?
The ATF does not believe so and their opinion is the one that matters most.

Honestly the device for the Glock doesn't look much more complicated than a lightning link for the AR. I'm sure any machinist could do it.
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philip964 wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 1:11 pm BTW Puerto Rico has strict gun laws and is a island.
Yeah so do most liberal cesspools here in the US. Gun laws are for average citizens. Outlaws don't ibide by laws. Maybe those morons in government will figure it out one day.
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philip964 wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 1:11 pm BTW Puerto Rico has strict gun laws and is a island.
Actually, due to Heller and some following federal court decisions, PR is now a shall issue jurisdiction and actually has a mechanism for reciprocity.
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So! Is this modification illegal? It sure seems like it would be.

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03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:39 pm So! Is this modification illegal? It sure seems like it would be.
It is illegal. I have heard of people being raided for buying the switch online.
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eyedoc wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:18 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:39 pm So! Is this modification illegal? It sure seems like it would be.
It is illegal. I have heard of people being raided for buying the switch online.
I hate to sound even a little bit anti gun but have to admit that maybe such a mod should require a special NFA of some kind. It is a little worrisome that those things are getting in the hands of street thugs. Thugs already kill too many innocent bystanders in their gang wars.
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03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:22 pm
eyedoc wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:18 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:39 pm So! Is this modification illegal? It sure seems like it would be.
It is illegal. I have heard of people being raided for buying the switch online.
I hate to sound even a little bit anti gun but have to admit that maybe such a mod should require a special NFA of some kind. It is a little worrisome that those things are getting in the hands of street thugs. Thugs already kill too many innocent bystanders in their gang wars.
In 2021 the leftists prefer not to keep violent felons in prison. Project Exile works to keep communities safe, but the leftists prefer violent crime
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Paladin wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:51 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:22 pm
eyedoc wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:18 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:39 pm So! Is this modification illegal? It sure seems like it would be.
It is illegal. I have heard of people being raided for buying the switch online.
I hate to sound even a little bit anti gun but have to admit that maybe such a mod should require a special NFA of some kind. It is a little worrisome that those things are getting in the hands of street thugs. Thugs already kill too many innocent bystanders in their gang wars.
In 2021 the leftists prefer not to keep violent felons in prison. Project Exile works to keep communities safe, but the leftists prefer violent crime
Sad state of afairs! Most of the increase in violence is perpetuated by multiple offenders who shouldn't even be on the street. That one Ding A Ling,( forgot her name) actually said we should close all the federal prisons. What in the heck is wrong with these morons?

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03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:22 pm
eyedoc wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:18 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:39 pm So! Is this modification illegal? It sure seems like it would be.
It is illegal. I have heard of people being raided for buying the switch online.
I hate to sound even a little bit anti gun but have to admit that maybe such a mod should require a special NFA of some kind. It is a little worrisome that those things are getting in the hands of street thugs. Thugs already kill too many innocent bystanders in their gang wars.
It is illegal. No NFA possible.
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eyedoc wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:02 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:22 pm
eyedoc wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:18 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:39 pm So! Is this modification illegal? It sure seems like it would be.
It is illegal. I have heard of people being raided for buying the switch online.
I hate to sound even a little bit anti gun but have to admit that maybe such a mod should require a special NFA of some kind. It is a little worrisome that those things are getting in the hands of street thugs. Thugs already kill too many innocent bystanders in their gang wars.
It is illegal. No NFA possible.
Honestly, good. But it sure doesn't seem to be keeping it away from criminal thugs.
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03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:04 pm
eyedoc wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:02 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:22 pm
eyedoc wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:18 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:39 pm So! Is this modification illegal? It sure seems like it would be.
It is illegal. I have heard of people being raided for buying the switch online.
I hate to sound even a little bit anti gun but have to admit that maybe such a mod should require a special NFA of some kind. It is a little worrisome that those things are getting in the hands of street thugs. Thugs already kill too many innocent bystanders in their gang wars.
It is illegal. No NFA possible.
Honestly, good. But it sure doesn't seem to be keeping it away from criminal thugs.
Gun control is only keeping these devices out of the hands of law abiding citizens.

If they want to give these violent felons 30 years for using machine-guns in this kind of gangland shooting that's great. I have no issues with that. But 4 murders should net the offenders even more time in prison.
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03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:04 pm
eyedoc wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:02 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:22 pm
eyedoc wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 6:18 pm
03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:39 pm So! Is this modification illegal? It sure seems like it would be.
It is illegal. I have heard of people being raided for buying the switch online.
I hate to sound even a little bit anti gun but have to admit that maybe such a mod should require a special NFA of some kind. It is a little worrisome that those things are getting in the hands of street thugs. Thugs already kill too many innocent bystanders in their gang wars.
It is illegal. No NFA possible.
Honestly, good. But it sure doesn't seem to be keeping it away from criminal thugs.
When have gun laws ever disarmed the criminals? For some reason, they ignore the laws. Only honest citizens obey the laws.

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Paladin wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:12 pm If they want to give these violent felons 30 years for using machine-guns in this kind of gangland shooting that's great. I have no issues with that. But 4 murders should net the offenders even more time in prison.
I disagree. They should spend the minimal amount of time possible in prison prior to meeting their Maker, face to face.
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mayor wrote: Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:17 am
Paladin wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:12 pm If they want to give these violent felons 30 years for using machine-guns in this kind of gangland shooting that's great. I have no issues with that. But 4 murders should net the offenders even more time in prison.
I disagree. They should spend the minimal amount of time possible in prison prior to meeting their Maker, face to face.
That would cut down on recidivism! :cheers2:
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