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Someone asked about advantages to building your own. 2 main ones I like are the cost and you can make adaptable ones. A friend got a lathe and got real good at making baffles. We made multiple sets for different calibers and you can get the tube and different mounts (threads) online for cheap. So with one registered titanium tube I can attach to everything from .17 to .45acp. Just change baffles and endcaps. We even figured out to open up an end cap to accept Liberty Mystic suppressor pistons so the .45 will cycle.
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I was under the impression you can't change out endcaps and baffles once it has been fired, that the only then you can do in that regard legally is use wipes?
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rm9792 wrote:Someone asked about advantages to building your own. 2 main ones I like are the cost and you can make adaptable ones. A friend got a lathe and got real good at making baffles. We made multiple sets for different calibers and you can get the tube and different mounts (threads) online for cheap. So with one registered titanium tube I can attach to everything from .17 to .45acp. Just change baffles and endcaps. We even figured out to open up an end cap to accept Liberty Mystic suppressor pistons so the .45 will cycle.
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Did I meet you at ETTS a couple of weeks ago, on the 100/200 yard sighting in range? I spoke with someone who talked about him and a friend buying a lathe and making their own suppressors. My son and I were there with our homemade suppressors, and we talked about sourcing of parts.
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No, I haven't met anyone at ETTS. From my research the maker (manufacturer) can repair a suppressor. I assume that's me. Will be writing the ATF to ask for clarification since I cant get a definite answer one way or another. You can buy pistons and such at a lot of places so I am not sure whats different about that. I know the tube is serialed but the other parts aren't. I lost all those replacement baffles last night though, wonder what happened to them...

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IIRC, the argument is that you are not a manufacturer (you don't pay SOT), you are a maker, and so you cannot swap components/repair yourself. You can find good details and info on this on the forum for SD Tactical Arms. I would advise doing this to try to research your clear answer before you write the ATF. Questions written to the ATF have the potential to get turned into opinion letters that negatively affect a whole bunch of gun owners, i.e. the Sig brace debacle.
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rm9792 wrote:No, I haven't met anyone at ETTS. From my research the maker (manufacturer) can repair a suppressor. I assume that's me. Will be writing the ATF to ask for clarification since I cant get a definite answer one way or another. You can buy pistons and such at a lot of places so I am not sure whats different about that. I know the tube is serialed but the other parts aren't. I lost all those replacement baffles last night though, wonder what happened to them...
I just form 4'd another suppressor yesterday, and the guy at The Silencer Shop to,d me that pistons are an over the counter part and not ATF controlled. I bought a Rugged Obsidian 45, which will take a 9mm piston, so I'll have a multi caliber pistol can. In fact, it will suppress a 9mm more effectively than many 9mm cans.
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My brother in law bought a SilencerCo suppressor for .308. their website has videos doing tests and found that their .308 suppressor (which you can put a 5.56 cap on) was slightly quieter on the 5.56 platform using the complete .308 unit. Seems like you can run a suppressor for your largest caliber and be good to go on smaller calibers as long as the threads will mate up.
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Right but it seems to be moot as the larger endcap works better than the smaller on the smaller platforms...
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RogueUSMC wrote:My brother in law bought a SilencerCo suppressor for .308. their website has videos doing tests and found that their .308 suppressor (which you can put a 5.56 cap on) was slightly quieter on the 5.56 platform using the complete .308 unit. Seems like you can run a suppressor for your largest caliber and be good to go on smaller calibers as long as the threads will mate up.

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I have a .45 can that I run on 9mm as well with a piston change, and a .308 that performs nicely on my 5.56 with no change required at all.
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der Teufel wrote:I submitted paperwork in mid-May, and my check to BATFE has cleared the bank, so I thought I'd call and just verify that there weren't any known issues. Actually, the guy on the phone couldn't tell me anything except that they're now beginning to process applications submitted in mid-March, and that the current processing time is six months.

Guess I'll just have to be patient for (quite) a while longer.
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AndyC wrote:Sounds like it'll be a nice Christmas present, though :)


Prophetic. Current data indicates that Form 1 paperwork submitted in February is now being approved. I'm hoping that I'm not going to be caught in a 'last-minute' surge before the rules change that will extend the processing time beyond Christmas. (sigh)

OTOH, I went ahead and ordered most of the parts I'll need to eventually put it together. That stuff should begin arriving by the end of this week.

Hey, I have an idea for stimulating the economy — let's take suppressors off of the NFA list! :anamatedbanana :cheers2: :hurry:
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der Teufel wrote:
der Teufel wrote:I submitted paperwork in mid-May, and my check to BATFE has cleared the bank, so I thought I'd call and just verify that there weren't any known issues. Actually, the guy on the phone couldn't tell me anything except that they're now beginning to process applications submitted in mid-March, and that the current processing time is six months.

Guess I'll just have to be patient for (quite) a while longer.
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AndyC wrote:Sounds like it'll be a nice Christmas present, though :)


Prophetic. Current data indicates that Form 1 paperwork submitted in February is now being approved. I'm hoping that I'm not going to be caught in a 'last-minute' surge before the rules change that will extend the processing time beyond Christmas. (sigh)

OTOH, I went ahead and ordered most of the parts I'll need to eventually put it together. That stuff should begin arriving by the end of this week.

Hey, I have an idea for stimulating the economy — let's take suppressors off of the NFA list! :anamatedbanana :cheers2: :hurry:

They should never have been on there in the first place, can you name anyone ever killed by a suppressor? They may have burned a hand if they were not smart enough not to grab it.
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