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New New Mexico Reciprocity Agreement

Postby Charles L. Cotton » Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:43 pm

DPS has posted the new reciprocity agreement with New Mexico. As NM hinted, the new agreement states that CHL's issued to persons under 21 years of age or to non-citizens will not be recognized in their state.

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Re: New New Mexico Reciprocity Agreement

Postby LSL » Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:34 pm

And, so I can understand the new reciprocity agreement between the states of New Mexico and Texas, as if I were a 6 year old --

Until or unless there are changes in the respective state laws --

If I am 21 years of age or older;
Have been issued, by my state, a permit to carry a concealed handgun;
I am a citizen of the United States; and
I obey the laws governing handguns of the respective state where I am located --

The valid permit to carry a concealed handgun issued by my state is to be recognized and acceptable in the other state -- in this case -- between New Mexico and Texas.

Do I see a road trip in my future?
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Re: New New Mexico Reciprocity Agreement

Postby Luggo1 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:46 pm

I wish Ohio could figure this simple compromise out....

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Re: New New Mexico Reciprocity Agreement

Postby Keith B » Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:01 pm

LSL wrote:And, so I can understand the new reciprocity agreement between the states of New Mexico and Texas, as if I were a 6 year old --

Until or unless there are changes in the respective state laws --

If I am 21 years of age or older;
Have been issued, by my state, a permit to carry a concealed handgun;
I am a citizen of the United States; and
I obey the laws governing handguns of the respective state where I am located --

The valid permit to carry a concealed handgun issued by my state is to be recognized and acceptable in the other state -- in this case -- between New Mexico and Texas.

Do I see a road trip in my future?


Where are you getting this part? Everything I am seeing says New Mexico honors non-resident licenses as long as they meet their other requirements. So, for instance a person with a Texas non-resident license would be OK as long as they were over 21 and a US citizen.
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Re: New New Mexico Reciprocity Agreement

Postby LSL » Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:44 pm

Keith --

My comments were specific to Texas and New Mexico, ergo, "my state" limiting where the permit/license was issued.

Having read Memorandum of Agreement between N.M. and Texas [click on the link in Charles' OP], I did pick up a condition, found on the second page, Condition 2 -- that the reciprocity by New Mexico was extended only "to a citizen of the United States," thus limiting someone, who in Texas was issued a CHL, to be excluded from this reciprocity, i.e., a foreign national residing in Texas.

Nothing that was in my follow-up to Charles' OP referenced to a Texas permit issued to any U.S. citizen who was unfortunate enough NOT to be a citizen of Texas.

Disclosure -- I am not a lawyer, but I try to break things down to the level of a 6 year old, so that I might more clearly understand what the heck is meant by all the whereases.

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Re: New New Mexico Reciprocity Agreement

Postby Keith B » Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:59 pm

Wasn't refering to non-citizens, I thought you were implying that non-residents (i.e. an Okie living in Oklahoma with only a Texas CHL) couldn't use it to carry in New Mexico even though they met the other requirements.
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Re: New New Mexico Reciprocity Agreement

Postby AggieMM » Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:09 pm

Thanks for posting, I have updated the Reciprocity Map, added 21+ to NM:

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4738

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Re: New New Mexico Reciprocity Agreement

Postby Charles L. Cotton » Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:11 pm

AggieMM wrote:Thanks for posting, I have updated the Reciprocity Map, added 21+ to NM:

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=4738

Ryan


Thanks Ryan, we all appreciate you keeping the map up to date.

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Re: New New Mexico Reciprocity Agreement

Postby Jumping Frog » Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:45 pm

Luggo1 wrote:I wish Ohio could figure this simple compromise out....

It is Texas that will not recognize Ohio, not the other way around.
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Re: New New Mexico Reciprocity Agreement

Postby Keith B » Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:31 am

Ohio doesn't recognize Texas licenses
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Re: New New Mexico Reciprocity Agreement

Postby Purplehood » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:18 pm

Keith B wrote:Ohio doesn't recognize Texas licenses


So I cannot drive in Ohio? :biggrinjester:
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Re: New New Mexico Reciprocity Agreement

Postby Keith B » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:49 pm

Purplehood wrote:
Keith B wrote:Ohio doesn't recognize Texas licenses


So I cannot drive in Ohio? :biggrinjester:


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Re: New New Mexico Reciprocity Agreement

Postby mikey1969 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:07 pm

Question : the wording on the DPS website when talking about reciprocity uses the terms "citizens" with texas CHL having reciprocity with other states ...... how is the word citizen interpreted in this case ....... does it mean american citizens ???? ..... in my case i am a non immigrant alien with a CHL .... living in texas for nearly three years now ....... am i able to carry in other states where reciprocity exists ?
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Re: New New Mexico Reciprocity Agreement

Postby Keith B » Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:11 pm

mikey1969 wrote:Question : the wording on the DPS website when talking about reciprocity uses the terms "citizens" with texas CHL having reciprocity with other states ...... how is the word citizen interpreted in this case ....... does it mean american citizens ???? ..... in my case i am a non immigrant alien with a CHL .... living in texas for nearly three years now ....... am i able to carry in other states where reciprocity exists ?


It would depend on the other states law, not Texas. When in another state, you must abide by all of their rules on carry, not Texas' rules.
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Re: New New Mexico Reciprocity Agreement

Postby Charles L. Cotton » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:34 pm

mikey1969 wrote:Question : the wording on the DPS website when talking about reciprocity uses the terms "citizens" with texas CHL having reciprocity with other states ...... how is the word citizen interpreted in this case ....... does it mean american citizens ???? ..... in my case i am a non immigrant alien with a CHL .... living in texas for nearly three years now ....... am i able to carry in other states where reciprocity exists ?


For purposes of New Mexico, your Texas CHL will not be recognized. NM will only issue carry licenses to American citizens and they won't recognize other states' licenses issued to non-citizens.

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