Current SCOTUS may not be reliable on next 2d am case

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Current SCOTUS may not be reliable on next 2d am case

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This week's offerings from the supremes make me nervous about the next 2nd amendment case they may decide. They seem able to ignore plain meaning at an alarming rate. SCOTUS appears to be very susceptible to current popular political whim. :???:
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This is why no one in their right mind goes to court if there is an alternative. You never know what a judge, and especially a jury if your case has one, will decide.
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This is also why Texas needs to start ignoring drivel coming out of Washington. 9 Judges do not rule Texas unless Texas wants to be ruled.
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atticus wrote:This week's offerings from the supremes make me nervous about the next 2nd amendment case they may decide. They seem able to ignore plain meaning at an alarming rate. SCOTUS appears to be very susceptible to current popular political whim. :???:
The SC began their slide a long time ago. It did not happen overnight.
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Especially since Roberts is so obviously in this administration's pocket.
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As others have observed before, elections matter. President Obama has had a SCOTUS appointment in each term. McCain and Romney failed to get a lot of conservative votes in the general elections of 2008 and 2012, resp. In Romney's case, this may have made the difference. As a result, we have Kagan on the SCOTUS. Lay the blame where it partially belongs.
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J.R.@A&M wrote:As others have observed before, elections matter. President Obama has had a SCOTUS appointment in each term. McCain and Romney failed to get a lot of conservative votes in the general elections of 2008 and 2012, resp. In Romney's case, this may have made the difference. As a result, we have Kagan on the SCOTUS. Lay the blame where it partially belongs.
All those GOP appointments worked out so well.

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anygunanywhere wrote:
J.R.@A&M wrote:As others have observed before, elections matter. President Obama has had a SCOTUS appointment in each term. McCain and Romney failed to get a lot of conservative votes in the general elections of 2008 and 2012, resp. In Romney's case, this may have made the difference. As a result, we have Kagan on the SCOTUS. Lay the blame where it partially belongs.
All those GOP appointments worked out so well.

The GOP will save us!
I agree. It is almost like the GOP has become a sub party to the the Democratic Party!
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anygunanywhere wrote:
J.R.@A&M wrote:As others have observed before, elections matter. President Obama has had a SCOTUS appointment in each term. McCain and Romney failed to get a lot of conservative votes in the general elections of 2008 and 2012, resp. In Romney's case, this may have made the difference. As a result, we have Kagan on the SCOTUS. Lay the blame where it partially belongs.
All those GOP appointments worked out so well.

The GOP will save us!
With respect, the GOP appointments are likely to be better than the democrat ones. Being a purist or protest voter in a general election is the worst thing to do. It will elect Hillary Clinton, who will appoint more SCOTUS justices.
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J.R.@A&M wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:
J.R.@A&M wrote:As others have observed before, elections matter. President Obama has had a SCOTUS appointment in each term. McCain and Romney failed to get a lot of conservative votes in the general elections of 2008 and 2012, resp. In Romney's case, this may have made the difference. As a result, we have Kagan on the SCOTUS. Lay the blame where it partially belongs.
All those GOP appointments worked out so well.

The GOP will save us!
With respect, the GOP appointments are likely to be better than the democrat ones. Being a purist or protest voter in a general election is the worst thing to do. It will elect Hillary Clinton, who will appoint more SCOTUS justices.
I understand your fear, but really, I voted GOP in the last election and what did it get me? Nothing. The craven capitulation by the GOP to everything Obama wanted....at least when not actively supporting and campaigning for his continued destruction and fundamental change like they did with the TPP. Since the election there has been more opposition to Obama by the Democrats than by the GOP (well, at least the Dems we're pretending....the GOP doesn't even pretend anymore). Everyone one of them that supported this TPP travesty is a treasonous snake. And really, at this point, how much more damage can Kagan do on the SC than Roberts and his elitist buddies have done?

The bottom line is that if we keep voting for these scoundrels they have no reason to change. The only thing they care about is holding on to power. The only chance we have now of representation on the national level is voting for the extinction of the GOP. Let the handful of actual Republicans left in the national GOP and those at the state level form a new party.
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VMI77 wrote:
J.R.@A&M wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:
J.R.@A&M wrote:As others have observed before, elections matter. President Obama has had a SCOTUS appointment in each term. McCain and Romney failed to get a lot of conservative votes in the general elections of 2008 and 2012, resp. In Romney's case, this may have made the difference. As a result, we have Kagan on the SCOTUS. Lay the blame where it partially belongs.
All those GOP appointments worked out so well.

The GOP will save us!
With respect, the GOP appointments are likely to be better than the democrat ones. Being a purist or protest voter in a general election is the worst thing to do. It will elect Hillary Clinton, who will appoint more SCOTUS justices.
I understand your fear, but really, I voted GOP in the last election and what did it get me? Nothing. The craven capitulation by the GOP to everything Obama wanted....at least when not actively supporting and campaigning for his continued destruction and fundamental change like they did with the TPP. Since the election there has been more opposition to Obama by the Democrats than by the GOP (well, at least the Dems we're pretending....the GOP doesn't even pretend anymore). Everyone one of them that supported this TPP travesty is a treasonous snake. And really, at this point, how much more damage can Kagan do on the SC than Roberts and his elitist buddies have done?

The bottom line is that if we keep voting for these scoundrels they have no reason to change. The only thing they care about is holding on to power. The only chance we have now of representation on the national level is voting for the extinction of the GOP. Let the handful of actual Republicans left in the national GOP and those at the state level form a new party.

Exactly. I am tired of the smoke the GOP blows every election.
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J.R.@A&M wrote: With respect, the GOP appointments are likely to be better than the democrat ones. Being a purist or protest voter in a general election is the worst thing to do. It will elect Hillary Clinton, who will appoint more SCOTUS justices.
GOP appointments over the last 30 years haven't worked out so well for a conservative agenda, if that's what you mean. Perhaps it could have been worse, but SCOTUS appears to be pretty middle/moderate even with the conservative appointees...
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cb1000rider wrote:
J.R.@A&M wrote: With respect, the GOP appointments are likely to be better than the democrat ones. Being a purist or protest voter in a general election is the worst thing to do. It will elect Hillary Clinton, who will appoint more SCOTUS justices.
GOP appointments over the last 30 years haven't worked out so well for a conservative agenda, if that's what you mean. Perhaps it could have been worse, but SCOTUS appears to be pretty middle/moderate even with the conservative appointees...
A lot better than the alternative - remember there have been a lot of 5-4 votes go our way on gun rights issues.
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jmra wrote:
cb1000rider wrote:
J.R.@A&M wrote: With respect, the GOP appointments are likely to be better than the democrat ones. Being a purist or protest voter in a general election is the worst thing to do. It will elect Hillary Clinton, who will appoint more SCOTUS justices.
GOP appointments over the last 30 years haven't worked out so well for a conservative agenda, if that's what you mean. Perhaps it could have been worse, but SCOTUS appears to be pretty middle/moderate even with the conservative appointees...
A lot better than the alternative - remember there have been a lot of 5-4 votes go our way on gun rights issues.
I believe that was before barry acquired the pics of Roberts doing whatever it was he was doing.
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anygunanywhere wrote:
jmra wrote:
cb1000rider wrote:
J.R.@A&M wrote: With respect, the GOP appointments are likely to be better than the democrat ones. Being a purist or protest voter in a general election is the worst thing to do. It will elect Hillary Clinton, who will appoint more SCOTUS justices.
GOP appointments over the last 30 years haven't worked out so well for a conservative agenda, if that's what you mean. Perhaps it could have been worse, but SCOTUS appears to be pretty middle/moderate even with the conservative appointees...
A lot better than the alternative - remember there have been a lot of 5-4 votes go our way on gun rights issues.
I believe that was before barry acquired the pics of Roberts doing whatever it was he was doing.
Actually Roberts has voted against Obama very recently. I don't agree with some of his votes but also do not believe he is in Obama's back pocket.
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