Carters Country!!! Dang it!
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The Annoyed Man wrote:OK..... I’m not trying to argue here.....I’m genuinely trying to learn something..... Previously, you said “Well, a pistol grip firearm is not a rifle or shotgun”. You didn’t say “a receiver is not a rifle [or shotgun]. I think I get why a receiver is not a rifle. It’s also not a pistol. Building it into a firearm is what makes it into that type of a firearm - which is how we end up with AR15 pistols, and AR15 rifles; two different kinds of firearms based on the same kind of receiver. But when you said “a pistol grip firearm is not a rifle or shotgun,” that is inconsistent with what I believe to be true about an AR15 long gun having a shoulder stock and a 16” or longer barrel - which indeed has both has a pistol grip, and is governed by the regulations concerning carbines/rifles. So can you see how that leaves me confused?
If you can clear this up for me, I’d appreciate it.
Okay, I see the disconnect, I wrote "...a pistol grip firearm is not a rifle or shotgun*, and therefore can't be sold to somebody under 21. Same applies for a stripped receivers [sic]..."
As already mentioned, "Pistol Grip Firearm" is a technical category, meaning it has only a pistol grip, not a pistol grip/stock combo. So, like a receiver it is neither a 'rifle' nor a 'shotgun'. Only an issue when trying to sell to an individual 18 - 21 yrs of age...until the govt and some boot licking companies screw that up.
The Mossberg Shockwave and the Remington Tac-14s are recorded as "Firearms" and not "Pistol Grip Firearms" or "Shotguns" to further confuse things.
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I'm of the opinion, if a store doesn't want to sell a gun to someone under 21, then so be it. If they do not want to bake a cake for a gay couple, so be it. If they don't want to sell black scary guns, so be it.
I have never bought a gun at Carter's or Dick's and do not plan to lose any sleep over it. There are other places to shop these company's aren't conducive to your age or align with your beliefs.
I have never bought a gun at Carter's or Dick's and do not plan to lose any sleep over it. There are other places to shop these company's aren't conducive to your age or align with your beliefs.
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Nice to know smaller gun stores are getting a business boost. Like this gem that just opened in Lubbock:
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Thanks for the clarification. I thought I was losing my mind!Scott B. wrote:The Annoyed Man wrote:OK..... I’m not trying to argue here.....I’m genuinely trying to learn something..... Previously, you said “Well, a pistol grip firearm is not a rifle or shotgun”. You didn’t say “a receiver is not a rifle [or shotgun]. I think I get why a receiver is not a rifle. It’s also not a pistol. Building it into a firearm is what makes it into that type of a firearm - which is how we end up with AR15 pistols, and AR15 rifles; two different kinds of firearms based on the same kind of receiver. But when you said “a pistol grip firearm is not a rifle or shotgun,” that is inconsistent with what I believe to be true about an AR15 long gun having a shoulder stock and a 16” or longer barrel - which indeed has both has a pistol grip, and is governed by the regulations concerning carbines/rifles. So can you see how that leaves me confused?
If you can clear this up for me, I’d appreciate it.
Okay, I see the disconnect, I wrote "...a pistol grip firearm is not a rifle or shotgun*, and therefore can't be sold to somebody under 21. Same applies for a stripped receivers [sic]..."
As already mentioned, "Pistol Grip Firearm" is a technical category, meaning it has only a pistol grip, not a pistol grip/stock combo. So, like a receiver it is neither a 'rifle' nor a 'shotgun'. Only an issue when trying to sell to an individual 18 - 21 yrs of age...until the govt and some boot licking companies screw that up.
The Mossberg Shockwave and the Remington Tac-14s are recorded as "Firearms" and not "Pistol Grip Firearms" or "Shotguns" to further confuse things.
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I had no idea of the history regarding Carter's. I will keep that in mind.
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Gosh,
What a name from the past.. I started shopping at Carter's Country in the late 70's. I don't think I've been there in over 30 years..(Of course I moved to Dallas 25 years ago). Back then it was just a long 2 lane road way out in the country to get there with hardly anything around it. I wonder what it's like now... Is the large Grizzly still in the corner when you walk in?
What a name from the past.. I started shopping at Carter's Country in the late 70's. I don't think I've been there in over 30 years..(Of course I moved to Dallas 25 years ago). Back then it was just a long 2 lane road way out in the country to get there with hardly anything around it. I wonder what it's like now... Is the large Grizzly still in the corner when you walk in?
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Years ago I bought a 12 gauge Browning Over and Under Citori with a schnable for end with a 24 "inch barrel with the Invector Choke System. No small dollars for such a gun...
It was to be a dove and quail gun.
The sales person acted bored and bothered with my purchase.
It was at that point - I thought I'll be going elsewhere for further gun purchases. And no, I didn't take hours to make up my mind. I said, please show me that o/u and bought it, there and then. Took, hhmmm 5 minutes to make up mind.
And no, I didn't expect balloons and exhortations of elation from the sales staff for my purchase, but boredom and vague annoyance, well adios forever...
It was to be a dove and quail gun.
The sales person acted bored and bothered with my purchase.
It was at that point - I thought I'll be going elsewhere for further gun purchases. And no, I didn't take hours to make up my mind. I said, please show me that o/u and bought it, there and then. Took, hhmmm 5 minutes to make up mind.
And no, I didn't expect balloons and exhortations of elation from the sales staff for my purchase, but boredom and vague annoyance, well adios forever...