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The more things change, the more they remain the same....

Postby The Annoyed Man » Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:53 pm

Saw an interesting quote this morning:
"Do not blame Caesar, blame the people of Rome who have so enthusiastically acclaimed and adored him and rejoiced in their loss of freedom and danced in his path and given him triumphal processions. Blame the people who hail him when he speaks in the Forum of the new wonderful good society which shall now be Rome's, interpreted to mean more money, more ease, more security, and more living fatly at the expense of the industrious." --Roman philosopher and statesman Marcus Tullius Cicero (106-43 BC)

Let me rephrase that in modern terms:
"Do not blame Obama, blame the democrats of the U.S. who have so enthusiastically acclaimed and adored him and rejoiced in their loss of freedom and danced in his path and given him triumphal processions. Blame the democrats who hail him when he speaks in the campaign trail, oval office, the Rose Lawn, and in front of Congress of the new wonderful good society which shall now be America's, interpreted to mean more money, more ease, more security, and more living fatly at the expense of the industrious." --Roman philosopher and statesman Marcus Tullius Cicero (106-43 BC)

Cicero implies that blaming Caesar is like blaming a dangerous animal for being anything but a dangerous animal. But if people understand their "Caesar" to be a dangerous animal, and therefore a danger to themselves, then maybe they will rightly fear him and seek to protect themselves from him..............instead of making that animal their false god and worshipping it as an idol.

I think the point is clear enough.

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Re: The more things change, the more they remain the same...

Postby Oldgringo » Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:30 pm

No offense intended but, who ran against Caesar?
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Re: The more things change, the more they remain the same...

Postby 57Coastie » Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:03 pm

Oldgringo wrote:No offense intended but, who ran against Caesar?


Brutus
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Re: The more things change, the more they remain the same...

Postby jayinsat » Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:37 pm

Awesome post TAM.
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Re: The more things change, the more they remain the same...

Postby Dragonfighter » Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:35 am

Anyone notice the proliferation of shows like "Revolution", "Last Resort" and "Amerikans"?

Inevitability or a call to readiness?
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Re: The more things change, the more they remain the same...

Postby Oldgringo » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:08 am

57Coastie wrote:
Oldgringo wrote:No offense intended but, who ran against Caesar?


Brutus


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Re: The more things change, the more they remain the same...

Postby Purplehood » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:32 am

I would omit the word 'Democrats' and use the phrase 'people of the US'. Otherwise I agree with Cicero and TAM.
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Re: The more things change, the more they remain the same...

Postby Oldgringo » Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:57 am

Purplehood wrote:I would omit the word 'Democrats' and use the phrase 'people of the US'. Otherwise I agree with Cicero and TAM.

:iagree: ... a whole lot.
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Re: The more things change, the more they remain the same...

Postby The Annoyed Man » Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:50 am

57Coastie wrote:
Oldgringo wrote:No offense intended but, who ran against Caesar?

Brutus

And no offense taken. I actually considered that angle when I wrote the above. But Obama doesn't get elected without the adulation of people who don't care about freedom. I mean "Personal Freedom," as opposed to the "Permissive, Lawless, Licentiousness" they actually care about. One requires a disciplined application of personal responsibility. The other requires a total abdication of personal responsibility. The former requires personal virtue. The latter requires abdication of personal virtue. These things are obvious to anybody who did not vote for Barak "Caesar" Obama (which is an apt nickname in light of how he has used the office in the past four years, and promises more of the same in the next four).

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Re: The more things change, the more they remain the same...

Postby RoyGBiv » Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:03 am

I'm gonna borrow that, if you don't mind..
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Re: The more things change, the more they remain the same...

Postby The Annoyed Man » Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:14 am

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Re: The more things change, the more they remain the same...

Postby MoJo » Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:20 am

Purplehood wrote:I would omit the word 'Democrats' and use the phrase 'people of the US'. Otherwise I agree with Cicero and TAM.


:iagree: I blame the vast majority of apathetic Americans who although they aren't in favor of the present situation they won't participate in the political process.
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Re: The more things change, the more they remain the same...

Postby 57Coastie » Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:29 am

MoJo wrote:
Purplehood wrote:I would omit the word 'Democrats' and use the phrase 'people of the US'. Otherwise I agree with Cicero and TAM.


:iagree: I blame the vast majority of apathetic Americans who although they aren't in favor of the present situation they won't participate in the political process.


The most constructive couple of posts from the right that I have seen here in a very long time.

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