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by Vol Texan
Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:17 am
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allisji wrote:One thing that I've noticed about Trump and his media coverage during the campaign is that he was almost a media darling during the primaries. I couldn't find a news channel that wasn't airing a Trump speech. Even with all of his media rivalries, he seemed to be the media darling. He owned it. Since the convention I haven't seen a televised Trump speech, the media is roasting him over every thing that he tweets and dissecting things that he has said, but they are not putting him on TV (except for maybe Bill O'Rielly). The MSM has turned quickly on him since he officially received the nomination. I think it may have caught him off-guard. I hope that he responds well this week.
You're right. They wanted him to be the candidate. That does not equate to them wanting him to be the president.

It's just like how we heard plenty of stories of 'crossover' Democrat voters voting for him in the Republican primaries. They, too, wanted Trump as the candidate that their candidate would run against.

This ain't Trump-bashing, it's just stating events as I see them. When we have the left's support for our candidate in the primary (as we did with crossovers and the media), that should worry all of us in the general.
by Vol Texan
Wed Aug 03, 2016 12:12 pm
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bblhd672 wrote:
Vol Texan wrote: Your candidate won, and ours didn't. If you truly want to convince more people to vote FOR Trump, then please stop bashing the conservatives who don't drink the Trump Kool-Aid at every turn. Reach out to them and bring them into your tent, rather than bashing them for sticking to their principles.
You are assuming that everyone who is adamant about voting Trump actually voted for him in the primaries. It's offensive to me for you to use the same "lump them all together" tactics used by the left against people here who love their country and don't wish to see government further suppress liberty and freedom.

I never drank the "kool-aid", I voted for a true conservative candidate - he lost, and now I support the only person left standing who has demonstrated willingness not to further the "progress" of Obama/Clinton/et al.

Too many conservatives/Republicans/et al are more concerned about their dammed principles than the future of the country. Fine, be that way. But when you no longer have a 2nd Amendment or a real 1st Amendment, don't whine about it. Turn in your firearms, shut your pie hole about the government infringing on your rights or anything else President Clinton and her minions are doing, and be a good obedient citizen.
Dude...read my full post, not just an excerpt.

Just like you, I am voting for Trump, and just like you, I'm trying to convince others to vote for him as well. I will hold my nose as I do so, but I will vote for him all the same. I, too, supported another candidate (Ted Cruz) both financially and otherwise in the primary, but he lost, and the only other option is Trump.

Once you get past the first sentence in the paragraph that you referenced above, you'll see that it is not about me. I'm voting for the buffoon, because he is the only option.

That paragraph is a direct response to another poster who called out non-die-hard Trump supporters as being, "DNC operatives flying under the guise of being pro-2A." All I was trying to do was explain to that poster that he could attract more flies with honey than with vinegar. Imagine, if I were not committed to voting for Trump, but was instead on the fence between him and a third party candidate. Calling me a DNC operative just because I don't worship at the altar of Trump with every single breath does NOT encourage me to 'come over to your side'.
by Vol Texan
Wed Aug 03, 2016 10:02 am
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ScottDLS wrote:When you voted for Trump in the primary, you voted for Hillary, since he was probably the only one running who could lose to her. The press is always all in for the Democrat, so the Republican candidate needs to take that into account.

Instead of articulating a conservative positions (or ANY positions) he meanders from one incoherent rant to another, usually aimed at his own party. He has no grasp of the issues, nor interest in gaining any. His stream of consciousness speeches repeat a few phrases and then generally degenerate into name calling and childish or obscene references. He doesn't prepare for debates and since he has no discernible principles to articulate, I think he'll get destroyed by Hillary. This even though she will be making abhorrent policy arguments. He could help Republicans lose the Senate as he gets decimated by the weakest Democrat candidate since Mondale.

This is my opinion as someone who will vote for him, since my fellow Republicans have left me no choice. Even Jeb! probably would have been better on ISIS, foreign policy, defense, gun rights, taxes, and the economy...But Trump promises a WALL...which will never be built when he loses, and Hillary naturalizes 11 million new Democrat voters. :banghead:
You've said it all perfectly here. Trump is a nightmare, but that doesn't take away the fact that I'll vote for him because the alternative is worse than can be imagined.
parabelum wrote: It's a non-story, grow thick skin. It was not aimed nor intended as you took it. This constant Trump bashing is getting on my last nerv, and it's always eminating from the same DNC operatives flying under the guise of being pro-2A.
parabelum,

I will write this as a constructive criticism with the best intents. I hope you will accept it at that, even if my words are not eloquent enough to convince you of so:

I hope you can take your own advice and grow some thick skin. Your candidate won, and ours didn't. If you truly want to convince more people to vote FOR Trump, then please stop bashing the conservatives who don't drink the Trump Kool-Aid at every turn. Reach out to them and bring them into your tent, rather than bashing them for sticking to their principles.

Yes, Trump has my vote, because the alternative is unconscionable. Our country has been on a downward spiral for too long, and Hillary's presidency will put the final nail in the coffin. Trump has my vote, but it sickens me to say this. I had hoped for anything else: even Chris Christie would have been better.

But we live in a world where sound bites (with no substantive basis) are the new reality, and Trump did that better than other Republicans. Our media did everything they could to make sure he got the nomination - not because he is the best candidate, but because they knew as soon as the primaries were over, they could use his buffoonery to destroy him in an instant. I predicted this months ago, and it has come to fruition. We are two weeks out of the GOP convention, and less than one week out of the DNC convention, and they have begun the first wave of a three-month full-court press against him. This won't stop because (a) this was their plan all along, and (b) he makes it so easy for them.

You're going to have to endure this until the election. It's not a non-story as you opined above, because those who write the stories don't agree with you. He won't stop what he's doing, and they won't stop writing about it.

Remember the old joke from when '43 was in office?
The Pope and President Bush meet with each other. They're near a lake and the Pope wants to go for a boat ride, so they take a small row boat out onto the lake. A big gust of wind blows the Pope's hat off and it ends up in the water. President Bush says, "Don't worry about that. I will get it for you." Bush gets out of the boat and begins walking on the water. After he recovers the hat and gets back in the boat, the Pope thanks him.

The next day the paper reads, BUSH CAN'T SWIM!
No, it didn't happen that way, of course, but it's an indicator of how the press turns anything they see into whatever they want it to be. But when the target of their wrath leaves himself so open:
  • If Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her"
  • If Hillary Clinton can't satisfy her husband, what makes her think she can satisfy America?
  • My fingers are long and beautiful, as, it has been well documented, are various other parts of my body.
  • My IQ is one of the highest — and you all know it! Please don't feel so stupid or insecure; it's not your fault.
  • Lyin' Ted Cruz just used a picture of Melania from a shoot in his ad. Be careful, Lyin' Ted, or I will spill the beans on your wife!
That's just a starter list, but you get my point. He won't stop, and they won't stop, so it will always be the story until they have defeated him. Trump has my vote, but more and more of my friends are choosing to vote third-party. I try to convince them otherwise, and I do so not by belittling them (as so many Trump supporters do), but by reasoning with them about how Trump losing would be even worse than Trump winning. I hope you're able to do the same, rather than bashing us as "DNC operatives flying under the guise of being pro-2A." You couldn't be further from the truth with that remark, and when you say it, you are not gaining any more votes for your candidate.

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