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PriestTheRunner wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:28 pm

Beiruty wrote: ↑Wed Jan 11, 2023 1:05 pm Revenge attack against the establishment

I agree, its just too unlikely to be merely random.

The fun may just be getting started. Wildcards are available for play. There's a dead black goblin, a Latino triggerman and a white DA. The whole situation is drenched in gasoline, who's gonna bring the matches. If one of the idiot community organizer race hustlers around there start making noises about "murder" and "no justice no peace" it's gonna get sporty and Oggy's political nightmare begins.

Beiruty wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:16 pm

Paladin wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:11 pm

(B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.

Once the BG was down and their "weapon" was removed... it's a lot harder to argue this to a prosecutor, judge, and jury in a criminal case. Even more so in a civil lawsuit.

The anchor shot is a step too far... but we'll see what the grand jury thinks.

I agree that one or 2 more shots may have been an overreaction. However, the stated (B) is used to establish the initial justification of the use of deadly force, which would be justified as the incident unfolded.
The question again, Texas law does not state what is deadly enough, or even if the threat is stopped or not.

If deadly force has to be qualified or restricted in the Texas law, a DA/or a lawyer can sue the actor (shooter in self-defense) why did he shoot more than 1 round?

Also, note in Texas law, "reasonably believes" is also deferred to the actor (in self-defense) if the deadly force is warranted.

Whole lotta speculation going on. Act II hasn't even unfolded yet. That's what will determine how this goes. This is Amerika 2023, where it's all POLITICAL, "the law" isn't remotely synonymous with justice and is these days mainly a tool to exploit for political agendas and personal gain. Kim the Ogres's office has a political-racial grenade dumped in their laps and all they're concerned with is how to exploit it to advantage or if lacking that making it go away. If they go full Stalin on the guy for arresting him that could open up the opportunity for an examining trial where a defendant can take the initiative outside of a Grand Jury, also opportunity for the DA to punt and run away from it if it serves them to do so. If it goes to a Grand Jury they could still sandbag it and punt or go full bore where it would be sure to end up in front of a petit jury who would probably acquit the guy, handing them a very public crap sandwich right in their faces. Given the general public's outrage over crime and widespread dereliction of duty by public officials am not sure Ogre's office would want to risk a slog through a lengthy and expensive process for the optics of a loss like that.

If there had been any justice under "the law", that little goblin wouldn't have been out to get shot in the first place. Six years for a cold-blooded murder and out to do more. Last year the Dallas police chief commissioned a study of recidivism among previously arrested thugs around Dallas, in the aftermath of several high profile crimes in his jurisdiction. Results weren't good. I saw him air out the local public safety commission about griping at him when they should be after the derelict judicial system who keep the thugs on the loose. Matter of fact this study the chief initiated is slated to be going statewide. There are people compiling the data, crunching the numbers for it right this moment. The plan is to ultimately create a real-time database keeping track of such stats. Will be interesting to see which politicians and NGOs object to it.

Beiruty wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 11:16 pm I agree that one or 2 more shots may have been an overreaction.

Have seen that sort of pearl clutching going on all over the internet. From personal experience the human body is amazingly resilient, amplified when a hostile is agitated beyond reason or saturated with certain narcotics. Every situation is different that's for sure. Best case scenario is someone takes a round, breaks contact, quits and runs away, problem over. But then there's those who won't. You have to be prepared to do what's necessary with that. People have to face and comprehend the reality that they may have to do some completely awful stuff to get an assailant off of them. That's the chilling reality.

Scott in Houston wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:06 pm 1). The customer didn't stick around because the police are looking for him

Beiruty wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:46 pm He left the scene fearing being charged with a murder.

Police would be looking for this guy by default. A realistic motivation for disappearing particularly around there is concern being identified and available for reprisal by a dead goblin's family, friends, fellow gang members. That's the reality of the world we live in now. The slide into a new order of Third World culture status is more accelerated in some places than others and Houston has quite the head start. Yet another thing at the top of the list of concerns for everyone to keep in mind before pulling your gun out.