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by Papa_Tiger
Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:43 am
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Experience dealing with LEOs during events etc?
Replies: 54
Views: 29586

Re: Experience dealing with LEOs during events etc?

Jusme wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 5:55 am
RSX11 wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:15 am
the only time ID can be demanded (i.e. you MUST properly identify yourself) is if you are arrested, detained,
The statute does not include "detained" as a time when LEO can demand ID.
https://www.lawserver.com/law/state/tex ... code_38-02

Read a little further down. There are three specific things listed, arrested, lawfully detained, or witness to an offense.
Yes, please do read. I didn't fully and I missed that 38.02(b) is only applicable when you give false information when you are arrested, lawfully detained or a witness. There is nothing there that compels you to identify unless you are arrested.
by Papa_Tiger
Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:41 am
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Experience dealing with LEOs during events etc?
Replies: 54
Views: 29586

Re: Experience dealing with LEOs during events etc?

WTR wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:27 am I’m confused. TX GC 411.205 states that you must show your LTC when “ demanded”. I also found a web site up dated 11/19/18 which stated TX was a nondisclosure State. No code was sited however.
The question comes down to when ID can be demanded. Per Texas law, the only time ID can be demanded (i.e. you MUST properly identify yourself) is if you are arrested, detained, or the officer has good cause to believe you are witness to a crime. (TPC 38.02)

Unless an officer has reasonable articulable suspicion to initiate a Terry stop or has pulled you over for some other infraction while driving, there should be no reason for an officer to demand ID and thus no reason to show your LTC.
by Papa_Tiger
Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:33 am
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Experience dealing with LEOs during events etc?
Replies: 54
Views: 29586

Re: Experience dealing with LEOs during events etc?

TexanVeteran wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:52 am Actually, it's not.

1. I just had my LTC class.
2. I did my research
3. Texas is not a disclosure state. It is a courtesy, yes, but not legally required at a traffic stop.
4. If you are open carrying, LEO's do have the right to ask you to show your LTC, and you must.

That is the law. Look it up.
If you have "done your research", please quote the relevant statutes that you used to come to your conclusions.

There are many here, including at least one person who has helped craft the LTC laws who would disagree with you about your statements.

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