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by Chaparral
Fri Nov 23, 2018 11:56 pm
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Topic: Extrajudicial Killing
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Re: Extrajudicial Killing

I never meant to suggest that anyone on this forum condoned extrajudicial killing. I was just pointing out other recent examples of the killing of rogue spys.

Again, I’m no expert, but this is what the Muslim Brotherhood says they believe in...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood

“According to a spokesman on its English-language website, the Muslim Brotherhood believes in reform, democracy, freedom of assembly, press, etc.

We believe that the political reform is the true and natural gateway for all other kinds of reform. We have announced our acceptance of democracy that acknowledges political pluralism, the peaceful rotation of power and the fact that the nation is the source of all powers. As we see it, political reform includes the termination of the state of emergency, restoring public freedoms, including the right to establish political parties, whatever their tendencies may be, and the freedom of the press, freedom of criticism and thought, freedom of peaceful demonstrations, freedom of assembly, etc. It also includes the dismantling of all exceptional courts and the annulment of all exceptional laws, establishing the independence of the judiciary, enabling the judiciary to fully and truly supervise general elections so as to ensure that they authentically express people's will, removing all obstacles that restrict the functioning of civil society organizations, etc.“
by Chaparral
Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:48 pm
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Topic: Extrajudicial Killing
Replies: 38
Views: 2054

Re: Extrajudicial Killing

Yeah, I guess. Like Putin poisoning Litvinenko with Polonium, and Skripal with Novichok.
by Chaparral
Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:09 pm
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Topic: Extrajudicial Killing
Replies: 38
Views: 2054

Re: Extrajudicial Killing

I don’t claim to be an expert on the subject, but I have worked closely with, and considered friends, several people who were supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood. My impression is that authoritarian leaders such as General Sisi, and the Saudi King, make them out to be terrorists because they oppose corrupt, authoritarian rule; so it is not surprising that they are portrayed as terrorists, just as the Assad regime portrayed the Syrian rebels as terrorists. I also get the impression that the Muslim Brotherhood, while certainly being rooted in Islamic religious principles, is also the closest thing there is to an organized proponent of democracy and fair justice in the Middle Eastern Muslim world. One might consider them Islamic “progressives”, but in a region of unelected dictators, that may not be entirely bad.
by Chaparral
Fri Nov 23, 2018 3:12 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Extrajudicial Killing
Replies: 38
Views: 2054

Re: Extrajudicial Killing

I think the difference between Al Qaeda, ISIS, or the Taliban, and Jamal Khashoggi is that the Virginia- based, U.S. resident, Washington Post journalist can’t, by American standards, be honestly considered as an enemy combatant of the Saudi Kingdom. The Saudis, however, may see it differently.

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