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by anygunanywhere
Sat Nov 20, 2021 3:29 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Replies: 464
Views: 108044

Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion

tomneal wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 3:26 pm Kurt Schlichter has an interesting take on updates to our Self Defense laws.

The entire article is worth a read. Schlichter also writes fiction and they are worth reading as well.

Here are some samples from Kurt's article.
Make the state disprove a self-defense claim at a special proceeding long before trial, then make the state disprove it again to a jury at trial.
Also, a person using force to defend himself against rioters must be presumed to use it lawfully.
The jury shall be instructed that unarmed individuals can pose a grave threat to armed individuals, and that a person attempting to take the weapon of the self-defender by force or threat of force shall be presumed to intend to use that weapon upon the self-defender." Try to take a piece? Better make your peace.
Let's also give the jury the full story and require that the entire criminal history of the target be revealed to the jury and that the jury be instructed that this history can be considered on the question of whether the self-defender was threatened.
And we just found out that the prosecutors in the Rittenhouse case were playing games with the evidence, substituting a hi-res version of a video for an unclear one that showed much less. We need a one strike rule for this kind of misconduct – if the DA cheats, the accused walks. Period. And not just in self-defense cases.
let's make the DA put some municipal skin in the game. Red legislatures must pass laws that ensure that not only does the locality have to pay all the defense costs of an acquitted accused, but the locality must pay his other damages, like lost wages and emotional distress. DAs, go ahead and charge him if you really believe it's not self-defense, but be prepared to put your money where your indictment is.
https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtsch ... 599239?180

Kurt did not include one of my pet peeves. There should be three possible verdicts: Guilty, Not Guilty, Innocent
In my opinion, Kyle Rittenhouse should have been found "Innocent".

On a side note. I saw photo's of the prosecutor pointing an AR at the jury. It didn't have sights. Did Kyle do all that Very Accurate shooting without sights?
:tiphat: :iagree:

The sights were probably removed for ease of storage or some other silly reason. They are probably on someone else's AR right now anyway.
by anygunanywhere
Sat Nov 20, 2021 3:11 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Replies: 464
Views: 108044

Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion

So what age is appropriate for someone do provide assistance where lawlessness is occurring? He was there to help people. Yes, he has admitted it was not a wise decision, but his persecution by the Kenosha DA was not warranted either.

In our history, many young men and women younger than Kyle have shown their courage and patriotism by placing themselves in harms way to protect others.

I have known many teens/young adults who exhibit far more character than the majority of adults.

https://www.captainsjournal.com/2021/11 ... here-crap/

Edited to add link.
by anygunanywhere
Sat Nov 20, 2021 2:09 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion
Replies: 464
Views: 108044

Re: Kenosha Wisconsin Shooter discussion

J.R.@A&M wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:26 am Post-trial, I am mostly agreeing with this perspective: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... el/620715/ . Easy for me to say since I had no property at risk from rioting arsonists. But that is one more reason I wouldn't want an armed teenager there, either.
I disagree.

Given the lack of suitable role models in today's teens and young adults that emerge from the zombie cell phone hypnotized throngs that thrive off fake news, Kyle is a young man who should be admired for how he has presented himself despite the pitiful persecution (not prosecution) for his lawful exercise of his right to self defense.

Kyle is indeed a hero for those who strive to live as freedom and liberty loving young patriots.

Tell us who should be held as a hero in today's youth. Rappers? Hip hoppers? Hollyweirds? I will wait as you tell us.

We could use more Kyle Rittenhouses. They don't even have to kill felons in self defense to deserve our admiration.

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