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by Bitter Clinger
Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:44 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: Officer Invades Apartment, Shoots Resident
Replies: 435
Views: 161180

Re: Officer Invades Apartment, Shoots Resident

RicoTX wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:43 pm
Killadocg23 wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:13 pm This is getting comical. The innocent guy gets shot in his own apartment and they search his apartment lookingnfor contraband? To smear the name of a Dead man unbelievable. They really are trying to throw this under the rug per say. What does him having marijuana in his OWN apartment have to do with this lady shooting him? WOW !
I agree. This will reflect badly on law enforcement. I don't care what he had in his house, he was murdered plain and simple. There are no excuses. Period. They better start handing this better or they will pay a price in the future.
Murdered? Or executed?
by Bitter Clinger
Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:07 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: Officer Invades Apartment, Shoots Resident
Replies: 435
Views: 161180

Re: Officer Invades Apartment, Shoots Resident

philip964 wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:23 pm
Soccerdad1995 wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:48 am
thatguyoverthere wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:47 am https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/la ... ar-n909506
Investigators said in a search warrant of the apartment of Botham Jean, 26, that they were looking for “any contraband, such as narcotics, and other items that may have been used in criminal offenses.” Investigators later said in a court document that they found 10.4 grams of marijuana during Saturday's search.
“The warrant seems to only be designed for one particular purpose,” Merritt said, “and that is to smear the victim.”
He said the officer's home has not been searched.
Interesting if true.
If this is true, this really is starting to smell bad.
I would say that this would not look good if they did not also search the shooters apartment.

The victim had a round red floor mat at the entrance to his apartment which would give his door entrance a very unique appearance.

The apartment door is a rated fire door just like you would find in most new hotels. It shuts and latches automatically. Thus the door was not ajar unless propped open by a stopper of some kind which still should be there as evidence. They said if the wrong electronic key is inserted you get a flashing red light just like in a hotel.

She had filed a noise complaint with the apartment complex about the victim.
If the noise complaint and the drug usage are true, then perhaps there is quite a bit more to this story...
by Bitter Clinger
Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:06 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: Officer Invades Apartment, Shoots Resident
Replies: 435
Views: 161180

Re: Officer Invades Apartment, Shoots Resident

MaduroBU wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:26 am 7 years for me, but neurosurgery residents still have no formal duty hours.
Sorry, badly worded question. If they don't have them, how did you routinely violate?
by Bitter Clinger
Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:12 am
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: Officer Invades Apartment, Shoots Resident
Replies: 435
Views: 161180

Re: Officer Invades Apartment, Shoots Resident

MaduroBU wrote: Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:05 am
Bitter Clinger wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:24 pm
Killadocg23 wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:18 pm
ELB wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:29 am
Killadocg23 wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:25 am Being tired from working a 14hr shift is no excuse. How many thousands of people work 14hr shifts everyday and don’t go to the wrong apartment and shoot somebody in their OWN apartment. Just wow.
Not an excuse, and jury still out on what exactly happened here, but fatigue is not a trivial factor either. The military and commercial air services came to grips with this a long time ago because when a pilot makes a fatigue-induced error that kills, it's immediate, spectacular, and takes a lot of people and $$$ with him. Hence flying hour restrictions are in place. The commercial trucking industry has sleep/drive restrictions. It appears to me the work shifts for doctors in training and in ERs are often pretty brutal, actually, and it's been accepted for a long time that it's part of being a doctor in those circumstances. Coincidentally perhaps, there seem to be a high rate of errors in hospitals. But the results of erroneous medicine happen to individual patients, one at a time, and are not always fatal,, and thus are handled individually. So short of cutting off the wrong leg they don't make a newspaper headline like crashing an airliner does.

Cops would seem to be in a similar situation as doctors -- long shifts, sometimes double shifts, probably most fatigue-induced errors are small and not very noticeable to the public at large. Applying duty hour restrictions to cops (and medical personnel) will drive up costs substantially, so I don't see anyone making a push for this any time soon.
Points noted.
There are duty restriction in place for medical residents.
Neurosurgery residents don't have duty hour restrictions. I routinely violated them while in training. It's just part of the job.
How long ago was that?
by Bitter Clinger
Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:24 pm
Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
Topic: Officer Invades Apartment, Shoots Resident
Replies: 435
Views: 161180

Re: Officer Invades Apartment, Shoots Resident

Killadocg23 wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:18 pm
ELB wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:29 am
Killadocg23 wrote: Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:25 am Being tired from working a 14hr shift is no excuse. How many thousands of people work 14hr shifts everyday and don’t go to the wrong apartment and shoot somebody in their OWN apartment. Just wow.
Not an excuse, and jury still out on what exactly happened here, but fatigue is not a trivial factor either. The military and commercial air services came to grips with this a long time ago because when a pilot makes a fatigue-induced error that kills, it's immediate, spectacular, and takes a lot of people and $$$ with him. Hence flying hour restrictions are in place. The commercial trucking industry has sleep/drive restrictions. It appears to me the work shifts for doctors in training and in ERs are often pretty brutal, actually, and it's been accepted for a long time that it's part of being a doctor in those circumstances. Coincidentally perhaps, there seem to be a high rate of errors in hospitals. But the results of erroneous medicine happen to individual patients, one at a time, and are not always fatal,, and thus are handled individually. So short of cutting off the wrong leg they don't make a newspaper headline like crashing an airliner does.

Cops would seem to be in a similar situation as doctors -- long shifts, sometimes double shifts, probably most fatigue-induced errors are small and not very noticeable to the public at large. Applying duty hour restrictions to cops (and medical personnel) will drive up costs substantially, so I don't see anyone making a push for this any time soon.
Points noted.
There are duty restriction in place for medical residents.

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