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by Scott B.
Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:40 am
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: How to Handle Student's Failed Proficient Test
Replies: 56
Views: 7788

Re: How to Handle Student's Failed Proficient Test

You would think they would cover all the administrative code stuff in the LTC instructor's course. Never understood why they don't.
by Scott B.
Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:47 pm
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: How to Handle Student's Failed Proficient Test
Replies: 56
Views: 7788

Re: How to Handle Student's Failed Proficient Test

Well, bless your heart.
by Scott B.
Fri Oct 21, 2016 7:37 am
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: How to Handle Student's Failed Proficient Test
Replies: 56
Views: 7788

Re: How to Handle Student's Failed Proficient Test

I'm an administrator, that's what mods are for (and why they get paid the big bucks)! "rlol"
by Scott B.
Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:19 pm
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: How to Handle Student's Failed Proficient Test
Replies: 56
Views: 7788

Re: How to Handle Student's Failed Proficient Test

Charles L. Cotton wrote:A private LTC instructor forum would not be workable because there's no realistic way for me to verify that people granted access are LTC instructors.

Chas.

It'd be some work for sure, but possible I think. I'm on a national FFLs only forum. To gain access you have to send in a copy of your FFL.

There's only 3.5k LTC instructors and a fraction of those on the forum. Dump the task onto your mods. Instructors who want into it send a snapshot of their ID on top of their LTC/CHL certificate. Makes sure the photos are deleted and not stored somewhere.

Just a thought.
by Scott B.
Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:10 am
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: How to Handle Student's Failed Proficient Test
Replies: 56
Views: 7788

Re: How to Handle Student's Failed Proficient Test

twomillenium wrote:
Scott B. wrote:I'll mention at the start that if a student has a problem with either test, we'll work on it together, be it one-on-one tutoring or whatever it takes. I haven't had any fail, yet. A few have come much too close on shooting proficiency.

What I did for all my early classes was track questions that students were missing. It helped point out areas that I needed to strengthen in my presentation.

I've not been at it long, but I've enjoyed every class. Even the challenging ones (usually venue driven) have been great learning experiences.
I still check for most commonly missed questions. (I rarely have a student miss more than 3.) The only students that I have had fail the written test are those who had a literacy problem, I had one who just got really nervous about taking test. Funny thing was he shot 250. For those who don't pass the first proficiency test, I have been successful in talking them into further instruction (their choice of whom or where) before trying the second test. I have only had one who had to test 3 times. The second prof. test was a disqualification due to safety reasons and that was taken care of that day. ( somehow I do not think she will forget that safety class)
That's a good point about spot checks. I will also mention that if a student has issues with taking either test to talk to me during a break and I'll accommodate them.

What really helped me was auditing a couple of other instructors after I got certified. They were happy to let me and got some free help on the line. Got some great tips and some new approaches. Steal from the best is a pretty good mantra in teaching.
by Scott B.
Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:02 am
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: How to Handle Student's Failed Proficient Test
Replies: 56
Views: 7788

Re: How to Handle Student's Failed Proficient Test

Charles L. Cotton wrote:I would really like to post the three most often missed questions so we instructors could discuss them, compare notes, and decide on ways to better present that material. Unfortunately, doing so would reveal the test questions. Oh well . . .
Chas.
Perhaps consider a private forum for instructors? There's at least one private forum on the board already. Only issue would be vetting people allowed into the forum, and all that takes is time and a moderator checking credentials.

There's some questions I haven't asked because of google search bots.
by Scott B.
Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:48 pm
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: How to Handle Student's Failed Proficient Test
Replies: 56
Views: 7788

Re: How to Handle Student's Failed Proficient Test

I'll mention at the start that if a student has a problem with either test, we'll work on it together, be it one-on-one tutoring or whatever it takes. I haven't had any fail, yet. A few have come much too close on shooting proficiency.

What I did for all my early classes was track questions that students were missing. It helped point out areas that I needed to strengthen in my presentation.

I've not been at it long, but I've enjoyed every class. Even the challenging ones (usually venue driven) have been great learning experiences.
by Scott B.
Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:31 pm
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: How to Handle Student's Failed Proficient Test
Replies: 56
Views: 7788

Re: How to Handle Student's Failed Proficient Test

BCGlocker wrote:... is it really that bad (I am a new LTC instructor getting ready to teach my first class)?
I've helped out as an RSO (only) for some bigger classes while I wait the May instructor's class slot.

This is purely my opinion, but yes. It's that bad. Good 20% need to be in basic pistol instead. I've seen all the classics; never shot the gun before/never loaded a magazine before, rounds in the mag backwards, mag 'successfully' inserted backward, looking at the target - while shooting the floor below it, and every body position you can possibly imagine.

Not to mention low cut tops, open toed shoes, flip flops, etc.

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