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by Scott B.
Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:29 am
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: Suppresor Talk/ options
Replies: 37
Views: 15536

Re: Suppresor Talk/ options

The Annoyed Man wrote: But with a Form 5 transfer of an NFA item, does the transferee still have to fill out a 4473 and undergo a background check...
Unless the items have been held by a 02/03 SOT for the estate there won't be a new 4473. For individual NFA Form 4s or 5s, there's no need for a background check because that's been done by ATF. If a 4473 is done the check is bypassed and you just tick the corresponding NFA box. This is different than a Trust stamp where the check is done because they're uncertain who from the trust is picking up the NFA item.

For the form 5, two copies go to ATF, one notification goes to the CLEO, and eventually a copy of the Form 5 comes back to the transferee.
by Scott B.
Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:58 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: Suppresor Talk/ options
Replies: 37
Views: 15536

Re: Suppresor Talk/ options

I believe they stay with the executor (not executer...hopefully) until it's all sorted out. I'll check.

There are certainly benefits to a trust. If your trust is really complicated, multiple parties spread all over, getting finger prints and photos for everybody can be challenging. I've got a trust, but then again I don't trust anybody--even family--with my NFA toys, so it's pretty simple.

Course, I do have an SOT too :mrgreen:
by Scott B.
Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:03 am
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: Suppresor Talk/ options
Replies: 37
Views: 15536

Re: Suppresor Talk/ options

If you're the only one shooting your NFA toys, I'd lean towards individual filings.

On suggestion for the heir or person handling your affairs, have example Form 5s filled out for each NFA item. Easy to do. Download the PDF, type in your details, print it off and keep it with your papers.
by Scott B.
Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:52 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: Suppresor Talk/ options
Replies: 37
Views: 15536

Re: Suppresor Talk/ options

The Annoyed Man wrote: Multigenerational trusts still have an advantage. When I die, my son, wife, and daughter in law will not have to surrender the NFA items on the trust because it is multigenerational. Hopefully, by the time they approach end of life, my son will be able to transfer the items to my grandson’s possession.
Alternatively, individuals can list the NFA item(s) in their will. Then it's s Form 5 taxless transfer for the heir. It's not multi-generational, but it's easy.
by Scott B.
Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:26 am
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: Suppresor Talk/ options
Replies: 37
Views: 15536

Re: Suppresor Talk/ options

TxD wrote:Caution: Thread hijack.
For an NFA Trust. Are fingerprints required for all trusties and beneficiaries or just pictures?
TIA
For Form 1 or Form 4 items, all members of the trust have to be fingerprinted and photographed. FWIW, trusts are also taking much longer than individual applications.
by Scott B.
Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:42 am
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: Suppresor Talk/ options
Replies: 37
Views: 15536

Re: Suppresor Talk/ opcions

There are a ton of options out there.

Price goes from low to high along these general lines:

1. direct thread - stainless (blends)
2. direct thread - titanium
3. quick detach - stainless
4. quick detach - titanium

Titanium is lighter but not as 'durable'. Durability is a bit of a misnomer as few shooters are ever going to wear out a can. How the can attaches to your platform is a price / personal preference choice. Direct thread cans can loosen up while shooting which is less desirable. Quick detach cans require some sort of mount affixed to the muzzle. Some manufacturers include the mount with the can, others require you purchase them separately.

Brands? There are more and more out there. There's a lot of hype in the suppressor market. Pick a price and feature range, then shop around.

Remember, no matter what can you buy, automatically add +$200 mentally for the tax stamp.

I'm a little biased, but have been consistently impressed with the Sig Sauer suppressor line.

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