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Heck, west Virginia governor veto a Cc bill and it was over ridden. Missouri the same thing. Democratic governors in both. In the last year alone...There is no reason in the world we as the people of this state should not expect this bill to sail through. None !!!!!!
Not real familiar with this forums features. Can't find a like button. But I certainly appreciate your post. Guess, whatever the climate is in Austin now will certainly be different between now and close of session. Guess what I'm asking for is a united front for the sake of the same goal at least this early in the game. Changes happen sometimes on a daily and hourly bases during session from what I can tell. Unlike at a federal level, pressure can be a lot easier and effective. We will see. Just can't agree with tapping out on this even before the games begin.Jusme wrote:nlyric wrote:Would rather take a positive stand and at least get in the ring. As opposed to throwing in the towel because the politically schooled are predicting there is no way we can win. And like it or not that is also an assumption. No better example then the election we just had.bblhd672 wrote:You are assuming that all of the Republicans in Austin have the same degree of interest in expanding gun rights as we do.nlyric wrote: Charles, I thought I had responded already but guess I neglected to hit submit.
I certainly can not say it "will" pass. But I do believe if the NRA fully supports it, it has a very good chance. And like I've said none if they don't....
Reasons that support that have been already stated by some. Republican platform, control, and a governor who would surely sign it.
Would rather see the goal out weigh the glory and discourse for a change.
And in this case they are claiming support for unlicenced carry BUT we lost already. And there is some sort of an issue with who wrote the bill. And some sort of issue with who tried to take credit for past bills. Makes one seriously wonder if there isn't some sort of an issue with who gets credit for the bill should it pass.... Sorry folks it sure has that look.
You are more than welcome to push your representatives as much as you feel necessary to get this passed. Neither, the members, nor even the moderators of this forum make laws. We are simply expressing our opinions regarding our experiences with the legislature. All of my representatives are Republican, I have had conversations both in person and on-line with them, and they have given very valid reasons for why they think "unrestricted' carry won't pass.
Just getting prohibited locations for LTC holders will be very difficult. I doubt that the NRA opposes unrestricted carry, but without a large contingent of legislators, backing the bill, even their input won't sway that many.
There is no one here opposing the legislation, I simply feel that trying to push this down the throats of legislators, immediately following open carry and campus carry, that the resistance will be too strong. If you are successful in getting your representatives to either sponsor or write their own bill to this effect, I will support it and encourage my representatives to do the same. But I am not optimistic. JMHO
Would rather take a positive stand and at least get in the ring. As opposed to throwing in the towel because the politically schooled are predicting there is no way we can win. And like it or not that is also an assumption. No better example then the election we just had.bblhd672 wrote:You are assuming that all of the Republicans in Austin have the same degree of interest in expanding gun rights as we do.nlyric wrote: Charles, I thought I had responded already but guess I neglected to hit submit.
I certainly can not say it "will" pass. But I do believe if the NRA fully supports it, it has a very good chance. And like I've said none if they don't....
Reasons that support that have been already stated by some. Republican platform, control, and a governor who would surely sign it.
Would rather see the goal out weigh the glory and discourse for a change.
Charles, I thought I had responded already but guess I neglected to hit submit.Charles L. Cotton wrote:Is it your position that unlicensed carry will pass if the NRA supports it? If so, please give us the basis for that opinion.nlyric wrote:There is absolutely no reason unlicensed carry can't pass in 2017.. Unless of course the NRA doesn't fully support it... Then it doesn't have much of a chance.
Chas.
I'm talking about this coming session. I honestly don't care who did what in the past. Or who gets the credit in the future. And I stand by my statement. If the NRA doesn't fully support it, it doesn't have much of a chance.G.A. Heath wrote:This is completely untrue. The reasons unlicensed carry didn't pass all had names. I will share two: Stickland, and Watkins. The actions of a very vocal minority doomed unlicensed carry from the start and almost killed open carry. If we see thw same behaviour again more political capital will be spent trying to prevent or undo damage rather making real progress.nlyric wrote:There is absolutely no reason unlicensed carry can't pass in 2017.. Unless of course the NRA doesn't fully support it... Then it doesn't have much of a chance.