train460 wrote:I am new here but would like to throw in my 02.
Most comments made above are about what is percieved an actual attack, ie "BG". But in my mind he is not a bad guy "legally" until i either, see a weapon, experience aggresion either facial expressions or with his movements, or am physically attacked.
Just a few examples but my point is that just because someone comes up to you for whatever reason, they MIGHT not be a BG but say a deaf panhandler wanting to hand you a little card that says "I AM DEAF", then looking for a handout. By you saying backoff etc may not have been understood and then you assume the wrong intentions and bang, because he did not "back off" and you are going to jail.
I feel that, if approached in anyway other than being charged i would put up my left hand in a universal signal to stop, yell loud STOP with my body turned that my right hand is gripping my sidearm, but still holstered. If that person still approaches i feel that they would almost have to grab my left hand for me to then pull and discharge. Of course their demaner would play a BIG part in the scenario of course.
just my 02 of course.
You have a very good point here, and one that the process that HerbM linked to is designed to address. As you note, when someone unexpectedly approaches you and sets off your "uh oh" alarm, you don't know for sure what his intent is.
The "back offs", the increasing volume, the raised hands, all serve to help distinguish between good guys (or at least those without violent intent) from someone truly intending harm. A reasonable non-felonious person will move on. Someone who doesn't understand English or can't hear or is perhaps mentally challenged but not violent will get the increasing volume and hand gestures. Someone who pushes past all those trip wires does not have civilized intent and needs to be dealt with (by escape, non-lethal, or lethal means as is appropriate).
This series of trip wires gives you the moral basis to know that you needed to do what you needed to do. It also provides witnesses or video cameras an insight into what was going on. Instead of everyone's first clue being "BANG!" and there stands Michael with a gun in his hand over the body of some homeless-guy-off-his-meds/youth-who-was-just-turning-his-life-around, they see Michael trying to move away and being followed, Michael repeatedly telling the guy to back off, Michael making non-threatening gestures to go away, and the guy still came thru all that.
Of course if someone just flat out attacks you from close range, you skip all the no-thank-you-hand-gesture-back-off stuff and go to battle stations. This protocol is for those gray area enounters where something does not seem right, but there is no explicit obvious threat (yet).
Also, of if you are just outside the entrance to WalMart and a little girl in a uniform approaches with a box of cookies in her hand, I would not recommend yelling "BACK OFF" at her and pulling a weapon. Maybe just surrender and buy a box of the peanut butter ones, they're my favorite.