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by montgomery
Thu May 30, 2019 8:09 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Firearm in vehicle at work
Replies: 24
Views: 2896

Re: Firearm in vehicle at work

jmorris wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 9:14 pm
montgomery wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 11:06 am
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Unless you work at a Federal building, including a US Post Office, or at Superfund site, then you are good to go no matter what your employer says because Texas law is clear that parking lots are NOT premises AND your vehicle is an extension of your domicile. Period.

If you work at a Federal facility or Superfund site, the law is not on your side.

I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.
If you work at a Federal facility (I did) you are good to keep it in your vehicle, even behind a guarded gate. 18 USC 930 treats premises the same as Texas does.

Post office, no.
Agreed for non-military installations regarding Federal facilities ...
by montgomery
Wed May 29, 2019 3:57 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Firearm in vehicle at work
Replies: 24
Views: 2896

Re: Firearm in vehicle at work

bbhack wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 2:09 am
I would enjoy writing them a note informing them of state law. One might find a hungry lawyer to take a wrongful termination suit on contingency.
Somebody has to be case law. :lol::
by montgomery
Wed May 29, 2019 2:07 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Firearm in vehicle at work
Replies: 24
Views: 2896

Re: Firearm in vehicle at work

rotor wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 1:56 pm
Does your workplace fit in the following?


Similarly, the law exempts from coverage property owned or leased by a chemical manufacturer or oil and gas refiner with an air authorization under Chapter 382, Health and Safety Code, and on which “the primary business conducted is the manufacture, use, storage or transport of hazardous, combustible or explosive material,” unless the manufacturer or refiner provides a parking lot, parking garage, or other parking area that is outside of a secured and restricted area that contains a physical plant, is closed to the public, and the entrance to which is constantly monitored by security.

If so then you can't have a gun in your car. Liquor distillery might be one of those forbidden firearm places regarding firearms in your car.
Agreed, if the facility is considered a critical infrastructure facility under 30.05(b)(7)(A) ...
by montgomery
Wed May 29, 2019 1:21 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Firearm in vehicle at work
Replies: 24
Views: 2896

Re: Firearm in vehicle at work

jb2012 wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 1:13 pm
So to answer a few questions:

1. I work for a liquor distillery, so in theory that could be a caveat to the law, however I don’t think it would apply to being in a vehicle. When I worked at a bar there was no statutory rules about not keeping firearms in vehicles.

2. The parking lot is fenced in as well as the main facility, requiring a guarded gate, and then keypass entry from the parking lot into the facilities.

3. I managed to buy myself some time, and have not signed anything yet. If I do end up signing I will absolutely make sure to keep a copy.

4. The plan so far was to buy a safe and “lose the keys” while at work in order to avoid conflict.

Thanks everyone for the feedback so far
What does the parking lot at a liquor distillery have to do with lawfully concealing a firearm in your vehicle? Liquor distilleries are not Federal and not Superfund sites.
by montgomery
Wed May 29, 2019 11:06 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Firearm in vehicle at work
Replies: 24
Views: 2896

Re: Firearm in vehicle at work

jb2012 wrote:
Wed May 29, 2019 12:42 am
Not sure where this goes but seemed political enough in nature to go here.

I work for a company outside of Austin that maintains a strict no firearms policy. There are level 3 armed security guards at every gate entrance, that think they are cops and take their job way to seriously. Recently we were required to sign a sheet saying that we were not allowed to have any firearms (among other things such as drugs) in our vehicle, and that we are subject to a personal and vehicle search at any time. If found in posession (locked in your vehicle) you will face termination.

If I understand correctly, an employee has the right to keep firearms in their vehicle, in the state of Texas. Am I correct? What can I do to fight this? I really like my job and do not want to lose it over a bogus rule that doesn’t follow Texas law to begin with.
Unless you work at a Federal building, including a US Post Office, or at Superfund site, then you are good to go no matter what your employer says because Texas law is clear that parking lots are NOT premises AND your vehicle is an extension of your domicile. Period.

If you work at a Federal facility or Superfund site, the law is not on your side.

I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

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