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by txinvestigator
Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:58 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Private Security and CHL
Replies: 21
Views: 5088

Dragonfighter wrote:Thank you so much folks. And txinvestigator, I appreciate your complete information. That original commission was over 20 years ago, so I doubt I will be going back unless and until I am retired and need a place to take a nap while drawing a check :grin:

So to clarify if I am a CHL and otherwise commissioned, I can not carry CHL while on duty (I.E. all weapons must be in plain view). {Aside: The plain view edict for the service weapon makes sense if the SO is going to fulfill his/her job as "deterrent".}

Also to clarify, that goofy class for the PR-24 was not necessary but either a scam to milk more money out of the company or perhaps an insurance discount deal. Though I could swear I received an endorsement card (carried with the pink card) and I would swear it was from the "Commission".

Thanks again, after a couple of threads here I was reeeeaaallly eaten up with curiosity.

Kyle
To be fair, 20 years ago I was not involved with the agency, so you might have gotten something with your pink card. BTW, all cards are white now, and indicate the type of gun you can carry, just like your CHL; NSA, SA and STG (for shotgun)

Although a commissioned guard can legally carry a nightstick with no additional training, I strongly suggest they do not.
by txinvestigator
Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:00 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Private Security and CHL
Replies: 21
Views: 5088

chewy555 wrote:
txinvestigator wrote:
chewy555 wrote:Txi can you show me where it says that there is no limit to how many weapons that a commissioned officer can carry. I have always been told that you can only have one handgun on.
I would love to be able to carry more then one while working.
No, I cannot. Texas generally proscribes (prohibits) conduct. Unless conduct is prohibited, it is allowed.

Can you show me a law that restricts the number of weapons a guard can carry?
Sec. 1702.170. NONAPPLICABILITY OF FIREARM RESTRICTIONS.
Sections 1702.161, 1702.169, and 1702.206 do not apply to the holder of a temporary security officer commission who:
(1) is in uniform;
(2) possesses only one firearm; and
(3) is performing the individual's duties.
This is the only place that I can find that says only one firearm. I found this on the DPS website under the Private Security page.
I may have been miss reading it.
I guess that it is up to the company that you work for as to how many weapons that you can carry.
That, Chewy, is an excellent find. I failed to consider that as the board NEVER issues temporary commissions anymore. I don't know WHY that section is still in the code.

Unless you are issued a temp commission, you can carry all you want; they must be in plain view. ;)
by txinvestigator
Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:13 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Private Security and CHL
Replies: 21
Views: 5088

chewy555 wrote:Txi can you show me where it says that there is no limit to how many weapons that a commissioned officer can carry. I have always been told that you can only have one handgun on.
I would love to be able to carry more then one while working.
No, I cannot. Texas generally proscribes (prohibits) conduct. Unless conduct is prohibited, it is allowed.

Can you show me a law that restricts the number of weapons a guard can carry?
by txinvestigator
Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:19 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Private Security and CHL
Replies: 21
Views: 5088

The eligibility for all Private Security board applicants is similar to CHL; however, a Class A misdemeanor is a permanent disqualifier. 18 is the minimum age.

Dragonfighter, if you were commissioned before you probably would not have to take the 30 hour course over to re-commission. You probably can just take the 6 hour renewal class, and submit that certificate along with a copy of your original 30 hour certificate.

The commission class is a minimum of 30 hours.

There never were endorsements for other weapons. A commissioned guard can carry a baton, ASP, nightstick,, PR24, etc with no additional training. Any guard can carry OC.

Only a commissioned guard can carry a firearm while on duty, CHL or not. A non-commissioned guard cannot carry a firearm while on duty. There is NO LIMIT on the number of firearms or other weapons a commissioned guard can carry, but all must be in plain view.

The intent of the legislature was to insure that the 30 hour training requirement for commissioned guards was not bypassed by companies or individuals by having non-commissioned guards carry a firearm. An unintended consequence was that even a commissioned guard who is carrying a handgun in plain view cannot carry a concealed backup weapon.

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