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by TexasTornado
Thu Sep 15, 2016 4:36 am
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: Close call almost had to draw
Replies: 63
Views: 13007

Re: Close call almost had to draw

twomillenium wrote:
TexasTornado wrote:
o b juan wrote:why do new posters ask the question?

Almost had to draw?

Have occasionally had some in class that Had the shoot scenario thrown out to class by someone.. The are usually tryng to get attention and show they are MACHO. Very similair to the guys who just have to OC so they can see the fear in someones eyes.
I let them talk and then shut them down trying not to embarise them
I do not understand the continual slamming of those who choose to OC that takes place on this forum.

I understand that OC may not be your cup of tea, but saying that people "OC so they can see the fear in someones eyes," makes you sound presumptuous and judgemental. JMHO.
That is not what was said, you edited the statement thus editing the meaning. The poster said, "guys who just have to OC so they can see the fear in someones eyes". (They are out there, you know it, I know it, We all know it) The poster did not say all OC was like that, but your editing made it seem that way.

Also, you are right, Miss Manners is not required to get LTC, but DISPUTE RESILUTION is. If someone listened to that part of the class, they would have already known that dispute resolution was not being followed. When you use offensive language not only do you show lack of intellect, but it could be considered provocation. :tiphat:
Noted. I may have read more into the comment than was intended, but it seems to be an ongoing issue throughout threads. Also, a short segment on dispute resolution doesn't actually teach someone how to difuse situations. It does tell us that we need to try to diffuse not provoke; however, a lawyer could easily argue the OP was attempting to do just that by telling the boater to (paraphrasing) 'shut it and leave his family alone.' I'm not insinuating it was the best handling, but I also don't believe it was escalating given the actions of the boater it was more meeting the threat at the aggressor's level.

Backing down isn't always the best option when faced with a threat either. Softness can often be taken for weakness, and weakness can signal you as prey/victim which can actually escalate a situation with meatheads like Mr.Boater appears to be in the OP's scenario. Overall the human emotional state is extremely complicated which is why police, psychologists, nurses, etc., spend so much time learning different methods for dealing with agitated individuals.
by TexasTornado
Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:07 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: Close call almost had to draw
Replies: 63
Views: 13007

Re: Close call almost had to draw

o b juan wrote:why do new posters ask the question?

Almost had to draw?

Have occasionally had some in class that Had the shoot scenario thrown out to class by someone.. The are usually tryng to get attention and show they are MACHO. Very similair to the guys who just have to OC so they can see the fear in someones eyes.
I let them talk and then shut them down trying not to embarise them
I do not understand the continual slamming of those who choose to OC that takes place on this forum.

I understand that OC may not be your cup of tea, but saying that people "OC so they can see the fear in someones eyes," makes you sound presumptuous and judgemental. JMHO.
by TexasTornado
Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:43 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: Close call almost had to draw
Replies: 63
Views: 13007

Re: Close call almost had to draw

parabelum wrote:TT,

He should have folded'em at #2 above and mozied on. My opinion of course.
Probably. "If you can't say nuthin nice..." but again, no Miss Manners course is required to get an LTC.
by TexasTornado
Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:31 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: Close call almost had to draw
Replies: 63
Views: 13007

Re: Close call almost had to draw

Skiprr wrote:Well, I don't know Wyoming's laws, but there could have been an issue in Texas. Refer to PC §9.31 item 2: "...Did not provoke the person against whom the force was used...."
I'm still not seeing provocation.

1. Appologizes
2. Moves vehicle
3. Tells the aggressor to (paraphrasing again) 'mind their own business'

What in that suggests the OP was pressing for a fight?
by TexasTornado
Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:01 pm
Forum: Never Again!!
Topic: Close call almost had to draw
Replies: 63
Views: 13007

Re: Close call almost had to draw

I'm not sure the OP really escalated the situation. Telling someone to (paraphrasing here) 'mind their own business' when they pop off at you is more dismissing them and the situation than escalating it in my opinion. Could the OP have been more polite? Sure, but last I checked a course with Miss Manners was not a requirement of obtaining your LTC.

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