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by Soccerdad1995
Wed May 17, 2017 2:32 pm
Forum: Other States
Topic: IN: Police May Not Detain Armed Hoosiers to Check for Handgun License
Replies: 24
Views: 6501

Re: IN: Police May Not Detain Armed Hoosiers to Check for Handgun License

WTR wrote:We already collectively believe they should loose the right to bear arms forever. Part of the punishment is loosing that right. With the amount of repeat offenders we have, I'm not willing to be " soft" and chance their judgement improves. Not with my loved ones.
I can see your point. I'm just not a fan of a lifetime loss of civil rights for all felonies.

Your loved ones (and mine) are at risk regardless of whether these felons can legally own a gun, of course. If protection of our loved ones is the goal, then we would need lifetime imprisonment, without the possibility of parole, for all felony convictions.
by Soccerdad1995
Wed May 17, 2017 1:43 pm
Forum: Other States
Topic: IN: Police May Not Detain Armed Hoosiers to Check for Handgun License
Replies: 24
Views: 6501

Re: IN: Police May Not Detain Armed Hoosiers to Check for Handgun License

WTR wrote:
Flightmare wrote:
parabelum wrote::iagree: with TAM. Well said.


And those who are quick to condemn anyone with a felony conviction, more specifically one where violence was not a factor, just remember that local/State/Federal etc. judiciary can just as easily go after you one sunny day. You'd be surprised perhaps, maybe not, at "crimes" which carry a felony conviction.
Indeed. A buddy of mine has a state jail felony conviction on his record because he poured sugar free syrup into a guy's gas tank.

Anyone who's judgement is so poor to have preformed such a destructive and juvenile action, should not be allowed to process a firearm.
But should they lose the right forever? What if their judgment improves with age (as happens for most people) and they are no longer likely to take such a juvenile action in the future?

Call me soft, but I think that felons should be able to regain their right to vote, and RKBA, after their full sentence period has run it's course, and after they have made full financial restitution to their victim(s). If we collectively believe that a crime should result in, say, 10 years of punishment, then give them the right to vote back after that full 10 year period (even though they are likely paroled earlier). And any related restrictions on firearm possession should be eliminated when they get the right to vote back. I believe we need a strong connection between those two rights.

Of course, there could be other unrelated reasons to restrict either right (mental illness, etc).
by Soccerdad1995
Thu May 11, 2017 4:00 pm
Forum: Other States
Topic: IN: Police May Not Detain Armed Hoosiers to Check for Handgun License
Replies: 24
Views: 6501

Re: IN: Police May Not Detain Armed Hoosiers to Check for Handgun License

rotor wrote:In the reported case I am ambivalent about the result because we ended up with a felon with a gun getting a free pass.
I don't like that a felon with a gun got a free pass.

And I am very happy with the result of this case.
by Soccerdad1995
Thu May 11, 2017 12:30 pm
Forum: Other States
Topic: IN: Police May Not Detain Armed Hoosiers to Check for Handgun License
Replies: 24
Views: 6501

Re: IN: Police May Not Detain Armed Hoosiers to Check for Handgun License

My Brother from Seattle was recently visiting me and we started talking about open carry. He was surprised that police were not allowed to ask for a license just because someone was openly carrying. I asked him why. He said that since it is illegal to carry without a license, that should be enough reasonable suspicion. I then asked him if he thought that police should stop everyone driving a car to ask them for their driver's licenses. That pretty much ended the conversation.

You could also analogize to police asking everyone walking down the street for proof of legal residence since it is a crime to be here illegally.

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