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MaduroBU wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:22 pm I find Trump to be a despicable human being whose absolute best is to be a)not HRC and b) do a few good things. His trade deals have been needed for years, and will pay dividends. I worry that despite that, larger forces at work in the economy will trigger a large correction soon and that Trump's reliance upon the stock market for validation will cause that event to drown him and possibly the Republican congressional majority with it.

I don't know that I'd call the man "despicable". He hasn't fed anyone into a wood chipper or gassed a whole race of people, as far as I know. I would say that he is a bit of a jerk and is definitely rude and obnoxious. He also has a remarkably thin skin for someone who has been in the public eye most of his life.

I also think he is doing a good job by any honest measurement in all of the key areas that I care about for a President (economy, national security, etc). Then again, I am a devotee of Locke when it comes to the role of government. His one notable failure, IMHO, has been to cave to pressure in restricting our RKBA, specifically when it comes to so called "bump stock machine guns".

I can separate whether someone is a nice person from whether they are good at their job. And since I'm not planning to have the President of the US babysit my kids anytime soon, I really don't need them to be a nice person. Just get government out of the way of the economy and my personal life, and keep us from being defeated by our enemies, please. Do those two things, and I'll be just fine with a complete jerk as our President.

bblhd672 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:21 am https://amgreatness.com/2018/10/05/but- ... awakening/

For two years, NeverTrump has united with the Left to sabotage Trump’s presidency, smear congressional Republicans who support him, and ridicule Trump voters. Led by Bill Kristol, the editor-at-large-and-getting-larger of the Weekly Standard, this group is as culpable as the news media and Democratic politicians for the smoldering hellscape that now is American politics.

I have zero respect for Never Trumpers. Bill Kristol, Jonah Goldberg, Erick Erickson and all the rest of the "conservative media" who oppose Trump are Democrat appeasers and complicit in the socialist progressives' campaign to destroy the President.

If you want to push for alternative views, then by all means, go right ahead. But just opposing everything that someone does, simply because you don't like that person, is childish. It is wrong whether it comes from the left or the right.

I welcome the "Never Trumpers" ideas. If they oppose specific actions of our President, then by all means they should state their case. I also oppose some of our President's actions, like his recent unprecedented gun grab by pressuring an agency to call a piece of plastic a "machine gun". I also oppose some (make that most) of the things that the left would like to do. At the end of the day, I look at the candidates that have a chance to win and decide which of those candidates is closest to me on the things I care about the most. That's an adult way of viewing the world.

Heck, even Hussein and Slick Willy did a few things I agreed with.