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by TreyHouston
Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:51 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: So it begins.
Replies: 25
Views: 2008

Re: So it begins.

Jago668 wrote:
TreyHouston wrote:Just read current form 1 takes 350+ days for approval.... WOW!!! :shock:
So you're saying I got plenty of time to save up for my silencer?
HA! I believe that you have to send the SN and maker information so, no. You have to pony up the money then wait a year to open your present!
by TreyHouston
Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:20 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: So it begins.
Replies: 25
Views: 2008

Re: So it begins.

Just read current form 1 takes 350+ days for approval.... WOW!!! :shock:
by TreyHouston
Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:36 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: So it begins.
Replies: 25
Views: 2008

Re: So it begins.

The Annoyed Man wrote:
TreyHouston wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
TreyHouston wrote:So let me ask. They make a pistol brace that can be sholdered and ATF considers this a legal pistol. So, what the heck is a SBR now????? :confused5

https://www.sb-tactical.com/product/sob/
An SBR is a short barreled rifle, not a pistol. SBR is its legal classification. You can't legally shoulder an AR pistol, even if the brace looks shoulderable. ATF is very clear on that. The braces are legal for sale, and they are legal for use as a brace on a pistol, but it is illegal to use such a brace as a buttstock to shoulder the weapon. ATF has been very clear also, that if caught shouldering a pistol with a brace, the pistol instantly becomes an unregistered SBR, and you do NOT want to be in possession of such a thing without the stamp for it. An ATF registered SBR is perfectly legal to shoulder, because it is legally a rifle....just one with a short barrel.

Totally arbitrary nonsense? Yes. But it is the law nonetheless.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/2017042 ... ing-braces

The new letter maintains the position that “the use of stabilizing braces, as designed, would not create a short-barreled rifle when attached to a firearm.”

But it then goes on to clarify that “an NFA firearm has not necessarily been made … even if the attached firearm happens to be fired from the shoulder.”
Well then, that's a recent change. Even so, if I'm going to be firing from the shoulder most of the time, I'd rather have a purpose designed buttstock. And on further reflection, it would appear that the change in definition is merely a matter of who is president at the time. If a democrat is elected in 2020, you safety bet that ATF will rescind that letter, and issue a new one restablishing the rules under Obama. It's a fickle definition. Until the NFA is struck down, at least an SBR's definition won't change. Yeah, it's a $200 stamp, and a wait for permission; but once it's done, it's done.

:iagree: thank you

And sorry about hijacking the thread!
by TreyHouston
Sun Sep 17, 2017 10:22 am
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: So it begins.
Replies: 25
Views: 2008

Re: So it begins.

The Annoyed Man wrote:
TreyHouston wrote:So let me ask. They make a pistol brace that can be sholdered and ATF considers this a legal pistol. So, what the heck is a SBR now????? :confused5

https://www.sb-tactical.com/product/sob/
An SBR is a short barreled rifle, not a pistol. SBR is its legal classification. You can't legally shoulder an AR pistol, even if the brace looks shoulderable. ATF is very clear on that. The braces are legal for sale, and they are legal for use as a brace on a pistol, but it is illegal to use such a brace as a buttstock to shoulder the weapon. ATF has been very clear also, that if caught shouldering a pistol with a brace, the pistol instantly becomes an unregistered SBR, and you do NOT want to be in possession of such a thing without the stamp for it. An ATF registered SBR is perfectly legal to shoulder, because it is legally a rifle....just one with a short barrel.

Totally arbitrary nonsense? Yes. But it is the law nonetheless.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/2017042 ... ing-braces

The new letter maintains the position that “the use of stabilizing braces, as designed, would not create a short-barreled rifle when attached to a firearm.”

But it then goes on to clarify that “an NFA firearm has not necessarily been made … even if the attached firearm happens to be fired from the shoulder.”
by TreyHouston
Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:03 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: So it begins.
Replies: 25
Views: 2008

Re: So it begins.

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One is a SBR
One is a pistol
by TreyHouston
Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:57 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: So it begins.
Replies: 25
Views: 2008

Re: So it begins.

So let me ask. They make a pistol brace that can be sholdered and ATF considers this a legal pistol. So, what the heck is a SBR now????? :confused5

https://www.sb-tactical.com/product/sob/

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