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by TreyHouston
Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:25 pm
Forum: General Legislative Discussions
Topic: Interesting gun bills filed for 2019 session
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Re: Interesting bill regarding guns made in Texas

jb2012 wrote: Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:03 pm
TexasJohnBoy wrote: Mon Nov 12, 2018 2:59 pm
jb2012 wrote: Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:28 pm
sugar land dave. wrote: Mon Nov 12, 2018 12:45 pm
I'm not quite sure how I feel about this. What if someone in Texas uses the new plastic printers to make their own unregistered gun?
People are making “unregistered” guns in Texas every single day in the form of 80% lowers/frames. On top of that, there is no registry in Texas anyway. The only use for the serial number on your guns in this state, is to conduct federal bg checks.

All that being said I’m anxious to see if this makes any movement. Several states already have laws similar to these, and what do you know, no blood on the streets.
Please see https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/Hi ... &Bill=HB38

Mr. Canales would like to make a registry of firearms in TX which are built from 80% lowers.
Sec. 411.225. MARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR MANUFACTURING OR
ASSEMBLING FIREARMS. A person who manufactures or assembles a
firearm to which this subchapter applies shall:
(1) before manufacturing or assembling the firearm,
apply to the department for a unique serial number or other mark of
identification;
Correct. I’m stating that we already do have potentially millions and millions of “unserialized” guns in Texas, not to mention the U.S. Using a 3d printer would be none different policy wise than an 80% lower.
RSX11 wrote: Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:13 pm
guns that are made in Texas and stay in Texas are "not subject to federal law or federal regulation."
Montana and Kansas have tried this, and it hasn't worked out so hot. Assorted shooting organizations in Montana lost a bunch of (well, all) cases about this. A couple of guys in Kansas just got convicted of making suppressors, depending on the Kansas law to protect them. They haven't been sentenced yet.

A law like this does have some value as a symbolic statement to the Federales, but wouldn't be of much value to people wanting to make weapons and accessories that are covered by federal law.
The guys in trouble for manufacturing suppressors were doing so as part of a business. Manufacturing for commerce and manufacturing for personal use (although it shouldn’t be, and the government should keep their filthy hands out of it) is very different.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.washin ... -over-sta/

“A federal judge spared from prison two Kansas men convicted of federal firearms violations after taking into account Monday their mistaken belief that a Kansas law can shield from federal prosecution anyone owning firearms made, sold and kept in the state.”

Both got a felony charge and 2 years probation. Lives destroyed anyways

VERY interesting case. Even compared to marijuana in Colorado. Theor AG and governor would not back them in court either. Very interesting case

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