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The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Tue Jun 29, 2021 8:50 pm I have a question about the implementation of permit-less carry……. A friend of mine from California asked me a couple of days ago if he would be able to lawfully carry in Texas if he came out to visit me once constitutional carry has gone into effect. I told him that I wasn’t absolutely certain, but that I didn’t see why not.

Then a customer asked me today if constitutional carry in Texas was going to be available to anyone visiting the state, or only to Texas residents. Again, I said I don’t see why it would not be available to all, but I thought I should verify that answer here before I answer again somewhere else.

Thoughts?

Vol Texan wrote: ↑Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:47 am

crazy2medic wrote: ↑Sat Jun 12, 2021 10:25 am Abbott may have plans to sign this at a event at the Alamo!

I say that he should sign it at the West Freeway Church of Christ in White Settlement. That would make a statement!

flechero wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:51 pm I keep thinking of all the times in my life I put something off for just the right time.... and how many times something came up and interrupted my plans. Fingers crossed!

They've had a lot of time to get together for an hour and some cameras.

carlson1 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:33 pm

Soccerdad1995 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:04 pm

carlson1 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:35 pm

OlBill wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:19 pm I wish he'd sign it.

Most folks say he will, but from where I stand I can’t tell.

Why wouldn't he sign it?

I have no clue, but why hasn’t he signed it?

K.Mooneyham wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 1:02 am I am curious, what makes anyone think that Governor Abbott wouldn't sign the HB 1927?

ScottDLS wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 6:22 pm

powerboatr wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 6:14 pm

Grayling813 wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:05 pm

ELB wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:21 pm GOA's summary of bill: https://texas.gunowners.org/hb-1927-fin ... es-it-say/

Assuming Gov. Abbott signs HB 1927

If he doesn't after saying he would, he is making the most serious political mistake of his career as he is about to start campaigning for re-election.

that was my thinking, if he defaults and does nothing it makes him look even weaker.
i think we have a few contenders that can adjust him on the podium of political races

I believe unless he vetoes it, it becomes law at the end of the current legislative session. He will sign it.

Papa_Tiger wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:23 pm

Flightmare wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 7:05 pm

Papa_Tiger wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 6:54 pm

K.Mooneyham wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 6:39 pm Does this bill really change anything in regards to those who have their LTC? Or will that remain business as usual?

Based on my analysis, we can no longer be prevented from carrying in government meetings covered by the open meetings act and we get the "belt and shoulder" restriction removed from our holster choices.

While I see the "belt or shoulder" language removed, I do see this on page 24.

( 14) in the room or rooms where a meeting of a governmental entity is held, if the meeting is an open meeting subject to Chapter 551, Government Code, and if the entity provided notice as required by that chapter.

Gotta read a bit further in the bill:

Section 46.15, Penal Code, is amended by amending Subsections (b), (j), and (1) and adding Subsections (m), (n), (o), (p), and (q) to read as follows: (b) Sections 46.02, 46.03(a)(14), and 46.04(a-1) 21 do not apply to a person who:
...
(6) is carrying:
(A) a license issued under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, to carry a handgun; and
(B) a handgun:
( i) in a concealed manner; or
(ii) in a [shoulder or belt] holster;

Current law says:

Texas Penal Code Sec. 46.035. UNLAWFUL CARRYING OF HANDGUN BY LICENSE HOLDER. wrote: (c) A license holder commits an offense if the license holder intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries a handgun under the authority of Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, regardless of whether the handgun is concealed or carried in a shoulder or belt holster, in the room or rooms where a meeting of a governmental entity is held and if the meeting is an open meeting subject to Chapter 551, Government Code, and the entity provided notice as required by that chapter.
...
(i) Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), and (c) do not apply if the actor was not given effective notice under Section 30.06 or 30.07.

ELB wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:25 pm The Activities for HB 1927 say the Senate has adopted the conference committee report and a record vote was held. It doesn't give the numbers of yeas and nays, but it looks like the same version of 1927 has been passed by both chambers.
https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/Hi ... 7#vote1105

Papa_Tiger wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 6:54 pm

K.Mooneyham wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 6:39 pm Does this bill really change anything in regards to those who have their LTC? Or will that remain business as usual?

Based on my analysis, we can no longer be prevented from carrying in government meetings covered by the open meetings act and we get the "belt and shoulder" restriction removed from our holster choices.

( 14) in the room or rooms where a meeting of a governmental entity is held, if the meeting is an open meeting subject to Chapter 551, Government Code, and if the entity provided notice as required by that chapter.

Conference Committee Reports:

ELIGIBLE AT 8:00 PM MAY 23, 2021:

HB 1927 Schaefer / White / Hefner / Guillen / Canales / et al.

Relating to provisions governing the carrying of a firearm by a person who is 21 years of age or older and not otherwise prohibited by state or federal law from possessing the firearm and to other provisions related to the carrying, possessing, transporting, or storing of a firearm or other weapon; creating criminal offenses.