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by bblhd672
Mon Dec 10, 2018 5:47 pm
Forum: Federal
Topic: BATFE: Bump-Stock-Type Devices: Notice of proposed rulemaking
Replies: 112
Views: 52142

Re: BATFE: Bump-Stock-Type Devices: Notice of proposed rulemaking

Charles L. Cotton wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:13 pm
bblhd672 wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:33 am
Scott Farkus wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:39 pm Now, you've got "our guy", Trump, doing something administratively that even Obama didn't think he had the legal authority to do. It's going to set a horrible precedent if it stands.
This may cost Trump votes in 2020, not necessarily votes that go to his opponents but aren’t cast at all.
You're right, it will cost him 3 or 4 votes. Again, pick your battles.

Chas.
I'm not saying I won't vote for him if he is the Republican nominee. Again, I would just like to see the evidence that bump stocks were actually used in the Las Vegas shooting, at least something more than FBI/ATF saying "trust us, we wouldn't lie."

A recent article I read said that using bump stock while shooting at the down angle from the hotel room to the concert grounds that gravity would work against the bump stock's performing as designed.

This wouldn't even be a "battle" if Trump hadn't just jumped on the gun grabbers bandwagon from the beginning of the incident.
by bblhd672
Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:33 am
Forum: Federal
Topic: BATFE: Bump-Stock-Type Devices: Notice of proposed rulemaking
Replies: 112
Views: 52142

Re: BATFE: Bump-Stock-Type Devices: Notice of proposed rulemaking

Scott Farkus wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:39 pm Now, you've got "our guy", Trump, doing something administratively that even Obama didn't think he had the legal authority to do. It's going to set a horrible precedent if it stands.
This may cost Trump votes in 2020, not necessarily votes that go to his opponents but aren’t cast at all.
by bblhd672
Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:13 pm
Forum: Federal
Topic: BATFE: Bump-Stock-Type Devices: Notice of proposed rulemaking
Replies: 112
Views: 52142

Re: BATFE: Bump-Stock-Type Devices: Notice of proposed rulemaking

Zoo wrote: Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:18 pm
The Annoyed Man wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:40 pm I’m actually not that upset about NRA failing to defend bumpstocks. Like I said in my previous post, I get it that there is no political will to defend these things, as much as I wish it weren’t the case. What I am a little irritated at the NRA for - and mind you, I am an Endowment Life Member - is that the NRA has taken a public position against them. I would have been OK with NRA simply declaring that they are not taking a position on bumpstocks. Maybe that’s unrealistic, but that’s what I think about it.

:iagree:

I understand one must pick one's battles, but there's a big difference between avoiding a battle you think you can't win, and jumping in to give aid and comfort to the enemy. Unlike the recently departed POTUS, I'm not going to renounce my NRA membership over this, but I can't justify donating any more money to an organization that supports efforts to infringe the right of the people to own and carry guns.
One has to wonder at what proposed infringement the NRA will say “Enough, no farther!”?

Perhaps the NRA isn’t going to miss the few dollars a year sent in by the average ticked off members who have had it with the progressive infringement of the 2nd Amendment.
by bblhd672
Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:07 pm
Forum: Federal
Topic: BATFE: Bump-Stock-Type Devices: Notice of proposed rulemaking
Replies: 112
Views: 52142

Re: BATFE: Bump-Stock-Type Devices: Notice of proposed rulemaking

COMMENTS OF THE NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION ON ATF’S PROPOSED RULE

https://www.regulations.gov/contentStre ... ntType=pdf
by bblhd672
Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:02 pm
Forum: Federal
Topic: BATFE: Bump-Stock-Type Devices: Notice of proposed rulemaking
Replies: 112
Views: 52142

Re: BATFE: Bump-Stock-Type Devices: Notice of proposed rulemaking

https://www.ammoland.com/2018/06/923-pa ... z5JjxpwQDJ

Firearms Policy Coalition (FPC) and Firearms Policy Foundation (FPF) have announced that their extensive, 923-page opposition comment was filed with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) regarding the agency’s proposed rulemaking to ban “bump-stock” devices. The FPC Comment and its 35 exhibits can be viewed online in their entirety at https://www.firearmspolicy.org/fpc-fpf- ... -stock-ban.
by bblhd672
Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:02 pm
Forum: Federal
Topic: BATFE: Bump-Stock-Type Devices: Notice of proposed rulemaking
Replies: 112
Views: 52142

Re: BATFE: Bump-Stock-Type Devices: Notice of proposed rulemaking

ScottDLS wrote:
Soccerdad1995 wrote:
deplorable wrote:
At the very least there should be a grandfather clause for bump stock owners. You have to acknowledge that. Because criminalizing the possession of lawfully purchased firearms and accessories is infringement. It is unconstitutional. Period.
You're correct it's an unconstitutional infringement, the same as every other NFA infringement. Including a grandfather clause in a bumpfire stock ban wouldn't change the constitutionality of the infringement in the slightest. Besides, the Hughes Amendment prohibits taxpayers from adding new machineguns to the registry, so a grandfather clause isn't legal.
But by not adding a grandfather clause, the ATF's proposed rule is creating a separate and distinct violation of the U.S. Constitution through an uncompensated taking. Given the choice of violating a law (the Hughes amendment) or violating the Constitution, the Constitution should win. This all ignores the fact that the ATF isn't even a legislative body in the first place and has no business violating any laws at all.
Serious question. Are bump stocks still for sale from the manufacturers? I really might like to get one...even if I have to give it up later.
Apparently so.
https://www.bumpfiresystems.com/product/ar-15/

http://slidefire.com/product/ar-platform/
by bblhd672
Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:00 am
Forum: Federal
Topic: BATFE: Bump-Stock-Type Devices: Notice of proposed rulemaking
Replies: 112
Views: 52142

Re: BATFE: Bump-Stock-Type Devices: Notice of proposed rulemaking

James Wesley, Rawles' 42 point smackdown of the proposed lawmaking by ATF:

https://survivalblog.com/slippery-slope ... achinegun/
by bblhd672
Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:24 pm
Forum: Federal
Topic: BATFE: Bump-Stock-Type Devices: Notice of proposed rulemaking
Replies: 112
Views: 52142

Re: BATFE: Bump-Stock-Type Devices: Notice of proposed rulemaking

My response:
I wholeheartedly disagree with the proposal to ban this device.
I do not own nor desire to own an accessory like a bump stock. In my opinion using one is a waste of money by firing rounds rapidly and off target.

The Congress of the United States is Constitutionally tasked with writing laws. The legislative branch via the ATF should not be enacting unilaterally regulations that infringe upon the Constitutional rights of United States citizens. If Congress wants bump stocks and like devices banned, let them write and pass laws to be signed by the President.

The Executive branch via the ATF is setting a dangerous precedent when the government via regulation can make citizens criminals if they fail to turn in a legally purchased device without compensation.

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