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by Keith B
Mon May 09, 2011 10:34 am
Forum: 2011 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB681/SB321 Parking Lots Bill is on the Floor
Replies: 205
Views: 53727

Re: HB681/SB321 Parking Lots Bill is on the Floor

2up1down wrote:Would you please explain more. I have a CHL and drive a company truck (tanker).
Thank you Sir. I wrote this after reading the bill any comments are appreciated.
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If you drive a company owned vehicle, the company can still prohibit you from carrying and this bill does nothing for you. Doesn't matter what type of vehicle it is (car, truck, tractor-trailer, or a tank.) This only applies to personal vehicles in company parking lots.

Now, if your company DOES let you carry, you still have to follow the rules on property of others per the 30.06 or, if you deliver/pick up to/from a petro-chemical plant, then you would have to follow their guidelines or the law as it applies if you are an actual employee or not.
by Keith B
Fri May 06, 2011 7:32 am
Forum: 2011 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB681/SB321 Parking Lots Bill is on the Floor
Replies: 205
Views: 53727

Re: HB681/SB321 Parking Lots Bill is on the Floor

apostate wrote:
JKTex wrote:As Kieth said, and in another way, no sign, even 30.06, will be valid for parking lots (as defined in the bill).
As I read the bill, it seems a 30.06 sign in a parking lot would not apply to employees, but would be 30.06 notice for contractors, sub-contractors, consultants, customers, etc. I would love to be mistaken about that, but that's how I read Senate Bill 321.
While it might have to be argued, if you are a contractor, consultant, etc and being paid by the business to do work, then by definition you are an employee. Customers would still be prohibited from having a gun in the parking lot.
by Keith B
Thu May 05, 2011 10:23 am
Forum: 2011 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB681/SB321 Parking Lots Bill is on the Floor
Replies: 205
Views: 53727

Re: HB681/SB321 Parking Lots Bill is on the Floor

thr_wedge wrote:Please move if this belongs in another place. What is to stop an employer from posting 30.06 signs at the parking lot? Then CHLs would be prohibited by state law (which the SB 321 says is an exception to the new law) and since a CHL is required to have the firearm under SB 321 as part of the new law, you can't claim that you are carrying under the motorist protection act.
CHL is only required if you are in the Gas/Oil industry. And, the way the bill is written, if you are an employee and they have a 30.06 sign on the property, it does not apply to you for the parking lot.
by Keith B
Thu May 05, 2011 8:12 am
Forum: 2011 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB681/SB321 Parking Lots Bill is on the Floor
Replies: 205
Views: 53727

Re: HB681/SB321 Parking Lots Bill is on the Floor

Jasonw560 wrote:From the Guide to Texas Legislation website:
After a bill has passed through committee deliberation and three readings in the opposite chamber, the bill is sent back to the originating chamber. A new copy of the bill is not prepared; rather, any amendments are simply attached to the bill. If no amendments were adopted by the second chamber, the bill is enrolled (prepared for signing). The enrolled bill then is signed by both presiding officers in the presence of their respective chambers and sent to the governor. Any bill making an appropriation must be sent to the comptroller of public accounts for certification before going to the governor.

When a bill that has been amended by the opposite chamber is returned to the originating chamber, the originating chamber must concur with all of the amendments made by the opposite chamber before the bill can be enrolled. If the originating chamber does not concur with some or all of the opposite chamber’s amendments, it may request the appointment of a conference committee to resolve the differences between the house and senate versions of the bill.
They could try and send this to conference committee and stall it there. I doubt that it would work.
I could be wrong, but with as much support as the bill had originally going through the Senate, I doubt the more restrictive amendments added in the House will be of any consequence to not agree to. Sen. Hegar and Birdwell would be the ones that would normally object to any amendment on their bill that neutered it, and I think they will be satisfied with the changes and ask the other sponsors and supporters to vote it through. :thumbs2:
by Keith B
Wed May 04, 2011 2:52 pm
Forum: 2011 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB681/SB321 Parking Lots Bill is on the Floor
Replies: 205
Views: 53727

Re: HB681/SB321 Parking Lots Bill is on the Floor

hirundo82 wrote:
Jasonw560 wrote:How does affect Penal Code 46.03(a)(1)? You know, the written authorization of a school part?
SB321 doesn't make any changes to the Penal Code. It's already legal for school employees to have firearms in their vehicles on school property--they can just be fired if it is discovered.
No different than before. However, the schools CAN adopt a policy to allow employees to carry in their cars (always could before too for that matter), but maybe this law would help the districts that may be a little sympathetic to allow at least car carry.
by Keith B
Wed May 04, 2011 8:01 am
Forum: 2011 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB681/SB321 Parking Lots Bill is on the Floor
Replies: 205
Views: 53727

Re: HB681/SB321 Parking Lots Bill is on the Floor

kragluver wrote:
School district employees will still be prohibited from keeping a gun in their vehicle while at work.
This would not apply to school district employees who also hold a CHL though would it?

I'm also interested in how the new parking lot bill would apply to employees who work on fedral property (or if it would...).
Federal property is still off-limits. This bill does not override that.
by Keith B
Tue May 03, 2011 8:33 pm
Forum: 2011 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: HB681/SB321 Parking Lots Bill is on the Floor
Replies: 205
Views: 53727

Re: HB681/SB321 Parking Lots Bill is on the Floor

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