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by strogg
Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:55 am
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: So it begins.
Replies: 25
Views: 2422

Re: So it begins.

TreyHouston wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
TreyHouston wrote:So let me ask. They make a pistol brace that can be sholdered and ATF considers this a legal pistol. So, what the heck is a SBR now????? :confused5

https://www.sb-tactical.com/product/sob/
An SBR is a short barreled rifle, not a pistol. SBR is its legal classification. You can't legally shoulder an AR pistol, even if the brace looks shoulderable. ATF is very clear on that. The braces are legal for sale, and they are legal for use as a brace on a pistol, but it is illegal to use such a brace as a buttstock to shoulder the weapon. ATF has been very clear also, that if caught shouldering a pistol with a brace, the pistol instantly becomes an unregistered SBR, and you do NOT want to be in possession of such a thing without the stamp for it. An ATF registered SBR is perfectly legal to shoulder, because it is legally a rifle....just one with a short barrel.

Totally arbitrary nonsense? Yes. But it is the law nonetheless.

https://www.nraila.org/articles/2017042 ... ing-braces

The new letter maintains the position that “the use of stabilizing braces, as designed, would not create a short-barreled rifle when attached to a firearm.”

But it then goes on to clarify that “an NFA firearm has not necessarily been made … even if the attached firearm happens to be fired from the shoulder.”
The way I interpret the latest letter is, "Whatever... we got bigger things to deal with than to argue over semantics with honest, law abiding citizens. But we don't want to pin ourselves in a corner in case bad guys take advantage of this fuzziness."

Regardless, it's still a good idea to register an SBR-esque pistol as an SBR because A: after it's registered, the laws become less fuzzy, B: you can use a collapsible stock instead of the brace nonsense, and C: you can accessorize all you want, including forward pistol grip. For only $200, I think it's worth it, considering the initial cost of the pistol.

I have two AR pistols in my collection, a 10.5" 300 blk and a 10.5" 22LR. I plan on SBRing those too, but I barely use them as it is, so I feel less inspired to SBR those as I do the PS90, which makes a range appearance over 50% of the time.
by strogg
Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:49 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: So it begins.
Replies: 25
Views: 2422

Re: So it begins.

Jose_in_Dallas wrote:What's a Form 23? I tried looking but couldn't find anything that made sense.
Basically checks off everyone in your trust. If you don't go the trust route, you can forgo this form.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/form/ ... 3/download
by strogg
Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:39 pm
Forum: Rifles & Shotguns
Topic: So it begins.
Replies: 25
Views: 2422

Re: So it begins.

:thewave

Nice. Congrats. I've been meaning to fill out a Form 1 and 23 for myself for my PS90 I want to SBR. I really need to get the ball rolling on that... What are the particulars of the 300blk you want to build out? I'm curious what you have in mind for it.

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