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by WildRose
Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:43 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: When is a school a school?
Replies: 30
Views: 10495

Re: When is a school a school?

Dreamer42 wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:35 pm I taught public school for 29 years but now teach at a private school. We are accredited. The building is posted 30-07 only. No, I do not carry. The school board says "no". An interesting situation is that sometimes during the school day church members meet in unused classrooms. Since they are conducting church activities in their church building, but during our school hours, can one of their members carry?
If it is in the school classrooms I would say no even if there are no classes in the rooms at the time IF it's during school hours.
by WildRose
Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:02 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: When is a school a school?
Replies: 30
Views: 10495

Re: When is a school a school?

Liberty wrote: Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:02 am
WildRose wrote: Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:15 pm

The safest course of action which I'd encourage every church/religious institution who also holds school part time would be for the board to come up with a specific policy allowing for certain staff/faculty/members to be listed as authorized to carry outside of class time.

If you have an attorney among the membership drawing something up to cover everyone should be relatively simple.
The safest course of action would be a policy that allows anyone properly licensed to carry. The Chosen Few concept, implys that all others are not wanted or are uninvited. All I know is that if I'm not trusted enough to carry, I am not attending or supporting that organization.
In general I agree but under the law only those specifically authorized can carry in a school or at school events held on campus.

When you're in a gray area that is left largely up to the interpretation of the police and local/count/DA the best way to go about it is to eliminate the gray.

You can be absolutely in the right and still find yourself arrested, charged, and convicted in a crime if you end up being on the wrong end of someone's political agenda.
by WildRose
Wed Aug 29, 2018 11:15 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: When is a school a school?
Replies: 30
Views: 10495

Re: When is a school a school?

rdcrags wrote: Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:57 pm
Texas1836 wrote: Tue May 22, 2018 8:20 pm It pretty much is a joint use area. The school uses it exclusively M-F, and the church uses it exclusively Sunday mornings for Sunday school classes. The church also uses it on Wednesday nights.

Could a prosecutor charge you with a felony for carry in the building during Sunday morning? Is it worth the risk?

Hopefully the bill Mr. Cotton wrote will get passed and make this issue obsolete.
Is it a felony for a CHL holder to get caught carrying concealed in a place classified as a school, or a Class C mis. ?
It is a crime if you are carrying without specific permission of the school authority.

As I understand it... if it is a dual use facility to be carrying when the building is being used as a "school". That would not include "sunday school" at which time the normal law as applied to churches would apply.

In this day and age though you never know when you are going to be confronted by an overzealous cop, get called in by an anti gun busibody, or having had the police called and gotten yourself arrested by either ending up in front of a Judge and DA looking to set precedent who oppose legal carry.

The safest course of action which I'd encourage every church/religious institution who also holds school part time would be for the board to come up with a specific policy allowing for certain staff/faculty/members to be listed as authorized to carry outside of class time.

If you have an attorney among the membership drawing something up to cover everyone should be relatively simple.

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