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Abraham wrote: ↑Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:56 am If one 'knows' that carrying at a bar is a 'no-no', I wouldn't. Unless you like to risk your LTC and take the ride.

I really don't need a sign.

I already know the rules with or without it.

Observing the rules is part of being grown-up.

Sidewalk lawyering about signs and/or their absence or presence is ...silly and comes with consequences.

Nor would I bother sticking my nose into the business's business.

If they fail to post a sign it's not my business to tell them they must or presume I can carry, cuz (with my bottom lip sticking out) theirs no stinkin sign. Please, you know better...

I actaully had a scenario a while back where I thought an establishment was missing their 51% signage but it turned out they were a distillery so they technically didnt make 51% of their profits from on site consumption. niftly little loop hole I think... you can drink booze and still carry. and its pretty much the same as a bar... imo i dont see the need for 51% signs at all anyway the way the law is now. just find yourself a distillery that also serves booze for on site consumption... Besides, whats to keep Drunky McDrunkerson from going out to his car and grabbing his gun and coming back in and going on a wild tangent about how pantera is better than metallica while waving his piece around? What's to keep a sober person from doing that? A plastic sign isn't gonna make crazy people any less crazy.