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Paladin wrote:Meanwhile, elsewhere in the UK, a shrine was built to honor a home invader who was killed in the act:
Council workers FINALLY tear down vigil to dead career criminal six days after it first appeared

In addition to building a shrine, the criminals also made death threats to the retiree who defended his home and another man who took down the shrine one his own.

In the tradition of William “I have taken England with both my hands” the Conqueror, the criminals are truly running the UK while good, law abiding people are disarmed

Coming to a United States of America near you!

Paladin wrote:

Grundy1133 wrote:no gun laws: people are being shot and stabbed
they ban guns: people are STILL being shot and stabbed
guns AND knives banned: can anyone guess what the outcome will be?

are all people everywhere stupid? I thought it was just america but i guess im wrong!

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

-Benjamin Franklin

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."

LeonCarr wrote:Gimme a piece of scrap steel and a concrete floor :).

A cutting or stabbing instrument can literally be made from almost anything. The Texas Prison Museum in Huntsville has many examples of this.

I can't believe governments actually believe banning material objects will reduce crime.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

I think your 2 cents are on par with most peoples 2 cents that frequent this forum... people who thinking banning an item will make it go away are naive... But then again it worked out so well with meth... i mean you never see junkies on the streets! and it worked so well with weed that its now legal in some states. i think governments KNOW they cant control human nature and so theyre trying to control access to material items which is stupid. case and point = california. high capacity mags are banned there A LOT of guns are banned there.... its full of "sanctuary cities" and "gun free zones" and yet where have a lot of the mass shootings been? california. with the same guns and mags that are supposedly banned in that state.... that alone should be enough evidence that banning something doesnt make it go away.... all banning guns is doing is taking away law abiding citizens ability to defend themselves. I guarantee you if we took away all the armed guards that surround the politicians and replaced them with people with a pocket full of rocks to defend them, they'd definitely change their tune! with govt its "guns for me but not for thee" which if im mistaken is tyranny and the reason the 2nd amendment was written in the first place!

Abraham wrote:Give me 15/30 minutes in my garage and I can make a lethal knife and I'm not especially mechanically inclined.

ditto. all you really need is a grinder and a belt sander

no gun laws: people are being shot and stabbed
they ban guns: people are STILL being shot and stabbed
guns AND knives banned: can anyone guess what the outcome will be?

are all people everywhere stupid? I thought it was just america but i guess im wrong!