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jason812 wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 9:30 pm Keep guns and ammo away from 17 year olds because they are children. When they shoot up a school, the same 17 year old is tried as an adult. I think the little thug should be hung but I also think there needs to be some consistency in the laws.

Like others have asked, why do LTC holders continue to be barred from carrying in a school? There's a small chance that a LTC holder would be at the school but it's better than zero chance.

I visit my girlfriend at the school she works at occasionally. they call me in to do IT work every so often. and i think youd be surprised how many teachers have LTCs. if my gf will hurry and submit her application, she'd have one. and i know of at least 4 teachers who have an LTC but arent able to carry becuase of the stupid laws barring us from entering schools. its ridiculous we can walk around outside the school all day long. on the parking lots, the sidewalks, even up to the doors to the school. but as soon as we step inside we're breaking the law. it makes absolutely NO sense. if we wanted to break the law we'd do it regardless. It's a stupid ineffective law. it's like telling a child not to sneak cookies before dinner and then leaving the cookie jar open on the floor. if people wanted to break the law they would regardless of if they have a LTC or not... that being said, i think people with a LTC are extremely LESS likely to break the law... its a backwards law.

twomillenium wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 5:57 pm

Grundy1133 wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 4:49 pm

LeonCarr wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 4:44 pm When are the Santa Fe shooter's parents, or any other mass shooter under 18's parents, going to be charged with making firearms accessible to minors?

Putting adults in jail for not keeping their firearms secure is a big step in the right direction.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

We live in a society where nobody wants to take responsibility for their actions so it's easier to blame an inanimate who can't defend itself.

In order to charge the parents then a law would have to be made up. He was 17, parents not required to lock up firearms from him.

if that's what needs to be done then so be it. I guarantee you if the parents were scared of going to jail, they'd be sure to keep their guns locked up which would in turn make it harder for these delinquents to get their hands on guns.

LeonCarr wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 4:44 pm When are the Santa Fe shooter's parents, or any other mass shooter under 18's parents, going to be charged with making firearms accessible to minors?

Putting adults in jail for not keeping their firearms secure is a big step in the right direction.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

We live in a society where nobody wants to take responsibility for their actions so it's easier to blame an inanimate who can't defend itself.

LDB415 wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 3:34 pm

cyphertext wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 12:48 pm

Soccerdad1995 wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 12:16 pm If I can't remember where I secured my gun, but it might be in a safe deposit box that I won't be able to get to for a couple weeks, should I report it just to be safe?

Is this really an issue for you? Do you have so many places that you secure your firearm, you might "forget" where you secured it?

Simple solution. Buy a Field Notes notebook. Make notes of every firearm with S/N and exactly where it is kept. Then you don't even have to look on shelf 1, 2 or 3 in the gun safe, you go straight to shelf 2 and the one you want.

I think what soccerdad was getting at is that he changes the location of his guns depending on if he's traveling or not so he might forget which safe/location he put his guns.

Soccerdad1995 wrote: ↑Wed May 30, 2018 12:16 pm I'm opposed to pretty much all of the proposed new gun laws. In particular the "revenge" proposal that allows people to have firearms taken away from relatives they are arguing with, under the guise of a red flag law, and the requirement to file a police report within 10 days of the time that a person "should have known" that a gun was lost or stolen. If I can't remember where I secured my gun, but it might be in a safe deposit box that I won't be able to get to for a couple weeks, should I report it just to be safe? And am I given absolute immunity from any charges for filing a false police report if the gun turns out to not in fact be lost/stolen?

I didn't notice that part. :O i skimmed thru it

I notice it makes no mention of getting rid of the GFSZ Act or any mention of allowing LTC holders to carry in schools. So even tho there will be peace officers and armed teachers, as LTC holders we'll still have to disarm? Seems kind of stupid to me. other than that I think these are great steps toward making schools safer.