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by Rafe
Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:43 pm
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New York City luxury buildings hire armed guards for possible Election Day unrest

https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-york-cit ... day-unrest
At the Time Warner Center on Columbus Circle, where the penthouse is going for $62.5 million, managers are deploying off-duty cops with “submachine guns” to stand watch, while other wealthy city enclaves are also beefing up protection for residents.

“Everybody is worried about security,” an insider told the Post. “Every top building is adding security. It’s out of control. We hope it won’t be needed, but we will be ready.”

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It’s even worse in Florida, where one New Yorker, who owns a luxury condo in Naples, said her building has hired two ex-marine “snipers” to stand on guard, with guns, on the roof, on Election Day and after.
Guns for me but not for thee, you hapless deplorables.
:mad5
by Rafe
Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:53 am
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C-dub wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 6:41 pm I thought the whole going for a knife thing had been debunked. He already had it and dropped it when shot.
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"Watch out! I have a karambit and don't have any idea how to use it!"
by Rafe
Fri Sep 04, 2020 6:38 pm
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I've been looking for an alternative, dedicated home-defense tool, one that's modest, understated, and non-threatening looking to any angry antifa members who may be seeking a temporary release of frustration by burning and looting my neighborhood and beating or shooting its residents. It's a small caliber device, so surely it wouldn't be as scary as something like the massively powerful .45 ACP. I think I like this little thing, and it's made in Texas:

by Rafe
Thu Sep 03, 2020 5:12 pm
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chamberc wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 12:59 pm A 6000+ lbs. vehicle is a better weapon than a rifle in those situations.
Used to drive my wife nuts until she got used to it; occasional horn honks from the car behind never helped. When driving on surface streets I always stay to the right unless there's a really wide and open median; but never in middle lanes. This means I brake a lot for right-turners and make it to my destination a couple of minutes slower than otherwise.

And depending on the height and hood configuration of the vehicle I'm driving, I have certain benchmarks to determine how far back I come to a stop from the car ahead of me. Let's just say it's always a healthy distance and, if there's any open country to the right or left, that I can accelerate into it without hitting the guy in front of me. This is what can cause the honking, and sometimes an enterprising jack*** who sees it as an open invitation to nose-in, stopping across both lanes, and waiting for the guy in front of me to inch forward. Not a perfect solution (and certainly not in a full-sized RV) but seems logical to me. My SUV can take a curb with no problem, and I've never seen a reason not to try leave myself some escape room when possible. As mentioned in another thread here, it's another reason I hate things like fast-food drive-throughs that have you so tightly hemmed in you can't even open a door.

Related: It's wild watching other people in their vehicles. It's gotta be like 99.9% have no situational awareness at all once they get behind the wheel...if they have any to start with. Stopped at any light at any busy intersection, you can count on one hand the number of drivers who don't have their faces buried in their phones...and half of those are talking hands-free or to another passenger. After coming to a full stop, most drivers creep forward, and then another inch, constantly getting a little closer to that car in front as if it will get them to their destination faster once the light turns. Very rarely as I look around when stopped like that, I'll catch someone else doing the same thing as me, checking out everything around me. Often we'll nod to each other. Probably one of you guys or an off-duty LEO. ;-)

Per the scenario, IIRC the very first case of use of deadly force under the then brand-new CHL law was a guy sitting in his car (maybe stopped in traffic on a freeway?) and he was assaulted through the driver's-side window by a large and physically powerful male. The CHL was acquitted. But very few what-if scenarios are clear-cut for me. You kick in my door at oh-dark-thirty (it's steel with a deep deadbolt; it's gonna take you a few tries), I'm not going to bother introducing myself and offering you a cup of coffee. I'll have some nice & shiny 75gr gifts for you that I got from Hornady. A woman starts taking a baseball bat to my vehicle? "Protestors" block my vehicle, climb up on it, and start jumping up and down? Dunno. I'd have to fire up the ol' OODA Loop and make what I thought the best decision at the time. I carry OC spray with me almost everywhere (and two Sudecon wipes!), and I'd think that if it were a solo crazy woman that broke through my driver's window she'd probably get a facefull of that while I figure out how to get out of there. If said crazy woman is accompanied by two big guys also with baseball bats, I have a very different problem.

Brings up a last point I've thought about but done nothing with. I have little video cameras fore and aft that will just keep recording until I turn them off, overwriting older "footage." I got nothing to the sides. If I'm stuck at a standstill you can approach me broadside while wearing a T-Rex costume and I'll never get it on camera.
by Rafe
Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:21 pm
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kayt00 wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:05 pm
philip964 wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 1:57 pm There was some family discussion Sunday about maybe needing to find a place. I suggested Montana or Idaho (sorry, if you are forced out of Texas where do you go) ( sorry, heaven, I forgot )

Well anyway a member of the family piped up, not Montana or Idaho that’s where all those crazy far right wing militias are.
Wyoming or Northeastern Utah (Uintah Basin) but only as a last resort.
Okay. I don't want to derail this topic any more than I already have, so I'll stop after this. Dunno why, but some time ago I started following the real estate company Hall and Hall's YouTube channel. Just for those daydream moments of, "I wonder what I'd do if I suddenly had 100 million dollars extra to spend?"

But their videos are always pretty good, and most of the properties are pretty spectacular. As an example, here's a property that sold in 2017 to an individual buyer, for his personal use, for $28 million. Some of the listings are larger than this 15,000 acre ranch, but Kessler Canyon in Colorado was move-in ready for a shooter. Check the two walk-in gun vaults and the eight-station shooting range; also has a dog kennel and a complete game cleaning and prep facility.

by Rafe
Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:49 pm
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Flightmare wrote: Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:02 am
Rafe wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:44 pm And Wisconsin Deep Blue Gov. Tony Evers has told President Trump he's not welcome in Wisconsin. Trump is scheduled to visit Kenosha this Tuesday, and Evers wrote him to ask him to stay away. Evidently Evers feels the protests are cathartic, and that they are helping Kenosha "overcome division and move forward." Evers' letter to Trump said, "I am concerned your presence will only hinder our healing."

Yeah. Right. All the Dem-run cities allowing violent assaults and rioting to take place unchecked in their streets are doing a gosh-darned super-swell job of moving forward and healing.
Sounds like it comes straight out of the movie "The Purge".
Oh. Snap. I never thought of that. The Purge's "New Founding Fathers" were purposely represented as extreme-right white nutjobs...Hollywood would never have bought the script, otherwise. But flip the "New Founding Fathers" to be radical leftists and antifa Marxists, and you just painted a pretty chilling analogy of the seemingly incessant riots and violence. Next step: "To protect the cities we all live in while still giving the oppressed, the demeaned, and the overlooked the opportunity to release their just and righteous anger, for 24 hours each year..." Once they've confiscated the guns from lawful citizens, they could even use the supply as a lending library for the poor and downtrodden who can't afford their own firearms but want to exercise their right to Purge.

Er, anybody want to discuss a bunch of us chipping in to buy a couple thousand acres with a defensible perimeter, good underground water supply, and arable land?
:tiphat:
by Rafe
Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:21 pm
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03Lightningrocks wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:34 pm
Rafe wrote: Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:44 pm And Wisconsin Deep Blue Gov. Tony Evers has told President Trump he's not welcome in Wisconsin. Trump is scheduled to visit Kenosha this Tuesday, and Evers wrote him to ask him to stay away. Evidently Evers feels the protests are cathartic, and that they are helping Kenosha "overcome division and move forward." Evers' letter to Trump said, "I am concerned your presence will only hinder our healing."

Yeah. Right. All the Dem-run cities allowing violent assaults and rioting to take place unchecked in their streets are doing a gosh-darned super-swell job of moving forward and healing.
My gosh. The thoughts leftists come up with just leaves me shaking my head in astonishment. It is like they live in some alternative universe. There is just no way they really believe some of the truly ignorant things they say. Healing??? What healing? Healing implies some sort of butt hurt has been put upon the poor dejected looters and rioters. There is no healing to be had. What they need is to all be put in jail. They are not going to stop until forced to do so. No amount of compromise is going to satisfy their taste for blood.
One of my favorite quotations from William F. Buckley, Jr., from the show Firing Line that ran until 1999:
I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.
Well, like I said, one of my favorites. Buckley also came up with these gems:
The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry.
There is an inverse relationship between reliance on the state and self-reliance.
A Conservative is a fellow who is standing athwart history yelling 'Stop!'
One must bear in mind that the expansion of federal activity is a form of eating for politicians.
Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.
Liberals, it has been said, are generous with other peoples' money, except when it comes to questions of national survival when they prefer to be generous with other people's freedom and security.
Buckley died in 2008. But there was once an era when the mainstream media didn't consider "conservative" and "intellectual" to be mutually exclusive terms.
by Rafe
Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:44 pm
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And Wisconsin Deep Blue Gov. Tony Evers has told President Trump he's not welcome in Wisconsin. Trump is scheduled to visit Kenosha this Tuesday, and Evers wrote him to ask him to stay away. Evidently Evers feels the protests are cathartic, and that they are helping Kenosha "overcome division and move forward." Evers' letter to Trump said, "I am concerned your presence will only hinder our healing."

Yeah. Right. All the Dem-run cities allowing violent assaults and rioting to take place unchecked in their streets are doing a gosh-darned super-swell job of moving forward and healing.
by Rafe
Sat Aug 15, 2020 3:03 pm
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Read the following quotation, and see how current you think it might be:
"Despite our wonders and greatness, we are a society that has experienced so much social regression, so much decadence, in so short a period of time, that in many parts of America we have become the kind of place to which civilized countries used to send missionaries."
I'm rereading Dave Grossman's On Combat...and finding new notes to jot down from it. He used that quotation to open a chapter, and it seemed way too "right now" to appear in the book. So I had to go Googling.

That was written by William J. Bennett, a former U.S. Secretary of Education (1985-88 under Ronald Reagan). It appeared in the March 1998 edition of Crisis Magazine (reprint of his full opinion piece here). He's also written some books that I'll now have to take a look at, among them The Moral Compass (1995), The Death of Outrage (1998), and America: The Last Best Hope (2006).

But, yeah. The quotation is from 22 years and 5 months ago. Compared to what we're seeing today, I somehow remember 1997-1998 as a friendlier, more sane time.
by Rafe
Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:41 am
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Can't resist quoting a few lines of what John Farnam had to say about the Portland mayor's visit to his riotous plebiscites:
Portland, OR’s Democrat mayor went out last night to greet his very own beloved Marxist mob, as they were enthusiastically destroying his formally-beautiful city, for the 55th day in a row!

To his astonishment, they turned on him!

I can just hear him shouting at them, “But, but, I don’t understand! I’m on your side. I am one of you! I hate capitalists, police just like you. Why are you attacking me?”

Even worse for his personal reputation in Beijing, Havana, and Pyongyang, Portland’s mayor was forced to make a cowardly, embarrassing, hasty exit, as his “security detail” (composed of city police officers that he says he hates, who are armed with “weapons of war,” which he says he also hates) physically tangle with the still-attacking, enraged, mob.

Seriously, what’s an committed anti-gun, anti-police mayor to do?
:tiphat:
by Rafe
Thu Jul 23, 2020 11:31 am
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philip964 wrote: Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:13 am https://www.dailywire.com/news/watch-tr ... teargassed

Right leaning article.
However, when the mayor arrived, protesters immediately cursed him, told to resign, threw things at him, and aimed leaf blowers at his face. He was also hit with tear gas outside the courthouse after the protest was declared a riot and was being cleared out by authorities.
:smilelol5:
by Rafe
Thu Jun 25, 2020 12:39 pm
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Greater New York Black Lives Matter president Hawk Newsome, June 24, 2020:
Hawk Newsome wrote: ...This country is built upon violence. What was the American Revolution, what's our diplomacy across the globe? We go in and we blow up countries and we replace their leaders with leaders who we like. So for any American to accuse us of being violent is extremely hypocritical.

...If this country doesn't give us what we want, then we will burn down this system and replace it. All right? And I could be speaking...figuratively. I could be speaking literally. It's a matter of interpretation.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/black-liv ... own-system
by Rafe
Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:47 pm
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Soccerdad1995 wrote: Thu Jun 11, 2020 2:10 pm How long until we need to rename "cotton" since slaves were used to pick cotton? Same goes for any other crops produced in the pre-Civil War south (tobacco, rice, etc).
I wonder if having "Charles C" on the ballot would confuse NRA board member voting...
by Rafe
Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:29 pm
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Pawpaw wrote: Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:53 pm Image
:thewave

Hadn't seen that one. Thanks, and thank you to the artist, Gary Varvel. I am so borrowing that. I know a handful of people who will get all apoplectic when they see that in their email inbox...
by Rafe
Tue Jun 09, 2020 8:31 pm
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All 612 "protesters" arrested in Houston the weekend of May 29 will have charges dropped.

https://abc13.com/society/charges-dropp ... s/6239927/

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