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by TexanVeteran
Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:03 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Experience dealing with LEOs during events etc?
Replies: 54
Views: 30021

Re: Experience dealing with LEOs during events etc?

In addition, I've met several members from this forum in person. Both at the NRA meeting in Dallas back in May this year, and at breakfasts we have in the DFW area and Houston area. If you're in the area of either of these and able to attend, I would encourage you to join us.
I live in Houston and go to Dallas on a semi regular basis. Where on this forum do I found out about such events?
by TexanVeteran
Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:59 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Experience dealing with LEOs during events etc?
Replies: 54
Views: 30021

Re: Experience dealing with LEOs during events etc?

rotor wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:30 pm
TexanVeteran wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:23 am
rotor wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:26 pm
TexanVeteran wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:52 am 4. If you are open carrying, LEO's do have the right to ask you to show your LTC, and you must.

That is the law. Look it up.
I know you have posted corrections but do you still think 4. is correct? I do not believe it is correct. Just because you open carry does not mean LEO can stop and ID you.
Penal code 46.035
What section says a LEO can ask for your LTC if open carrying? I think you need some additional training. Have you ever heard of Terry stop?
I hate the internet. I have finally found the actual Texas statute. It doesn't mention OC authorized requests by LEO at all. Thank you for pointing this out. The site I had used was guns to carry dot com. They cited the penal code that I stated. After your reply, I finally found the whole thing, and read the whole code. No mention either way. So, in re-response to your original question, no I do not think my original number for is correct.
by TexanVeteran
Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:23 am
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Experience dealing with LEOs during events etc?
Replies: 54
Views: 30021

Re: Experience dealing with LEOs during events etc?

rotor wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:26 pm
TexanVeteran wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:52 am 4. If you are open carrying, LEO's do have the right to ask you to show your LTC, and you must.

That is the law. Look it up.
I know you have posted corrections but do you still think 4. is correct? I do not believe it is correct. Just because you open carry does not mean LEO can stop and ID you.
Penal code 46.035
by TexanVeteran
Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:38 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Experience dealing with LEOs during events etc?
Replies: 54
Views: 30021

Re: Experience dealing with LEOs during events etc?

TexanVeteran wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:16 am
Papa_Tiger wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:33 am
TexanVeteran wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:52 am Actually, it's not.

1. I just had my LTC class.
2. I did my research
3. Texas is not a disclosure state. It is a courtesy, yes, but not legally required at a traffic stop.
4. If you are open carrying, LEO's do have the right to ask you to show your LTC, and you must.

That is the law. Look it up.
If you have "done your research", please quote the relevant statutes that you used to come to your conclusions.

There are many here, including at least one person who has helped craft the LTC laws who would disagree with you about your statements.
My apologies; my research was apparently not deep enough. Y'all, my friends, are/were correct. The most recent (a few minutes ago) research I have done, says the law states you must (while carrying) show your LTC and drivers license when asked for identification. I sincerely apologize for my misinformation, and I will NOT let that happen again. Thank all of you for making me aware of this.
What does the last part of that say y'all? Gimme a break!
by TexanVeteran
Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:31 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Experience dealing with LEOs during events etc?
Replies: 54
Views: 30021

Re: Experience dealing with LEOs during events etc?

Maybe you should read my latest reply before attacking me.
by TexanVeteran
Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:16 am
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Experience dealing with LEOs during events etc?
Replies: 54
Views: 30021

Re: Experience dealing with LEOs during events etc?

Papa_Tiger wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:33 am
TexanVeteran wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:52 am Actually, it's not.

1. I just had my LTC class.
2. I did my research
3. Texas is not a disclosure state. It is a courtesy, yes, but not legally required at a traffic stop.
4. If you are open carrying, LEO's do have the right to ask you to show your LTC, and you must.

That is the law. Look it up.
If you have "done your research", please quote the relevant statutes that you used to come to your conclusions.

There are many here, including at least one person who has helped craft the LTC laws who would disagree with you about your statements.
My apologies; my research was apparently not deep enough. Y'all, my friends, are/were correct. The most recent (a few minutes ago) research I have done, says the law states you must (while carrying) show your LTC and drivers license when asked for identification. I sincerely apologize for my misinformation, and I will NOT let that happen again. Thank all of you for making me aware of this.
by TexanVeteran
Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:52 am
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Experience dealing with LEOs during events etc?
Replies: 54
Views: 30021

Re: Experience dealing with LEOs during events etc?

C-dub wrote: Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:01 am
TexanVeteran wrote: Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:27 pm
montgomery wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:29 pm Why would you voluntarily show your CCW / LTC to a volunteer gate security person when it is not required to do so. Might as well open carry at that point. You are not required to disclose unless at a traffic stop with at Texas peace officer or upon direct request by a Texas peace officer. Otherwise, don't ask, don't tell.
You do not have to disclose at a traffic stop in Texas. The only thing you have to do is produce your carry permit, if requested, when open carrying.
This is so wrong!
Actually, it's not.

1. I just had my LTC class.
2. I did my research
3. Texas is not a disclosure state. It is a courtesy, yes, but not legally required at a traffic stop.
4. If you are open carrying, LEO's do have the right to ask you to show your LTC, and you must.

That is the law. Look it up.
by TexanVeteran
Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:27 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Experience dealing with LEOs during events etc?
Replies: 54
Views: 30021

Re: Experience dealing with LEOs during events etc?

montgomery wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:29 pm Why would you voluntarily show your CCW / LTC to a volunteer gate security person when it is not required to do so. Might as well open carry at that point. You are not required to disclose unless at a traffic stop with at Texas peace officer or upon direct request by a Texas peace officer. Otherwise, don't ask, don't tell.
You do not have to disclose at a traffic stop in Texas. The only thing you have to do is produce your carry permit, if requested, when open carrying.

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