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chasfm11 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:45 am

Grayling813 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:57 am I received a notification letter from DPS on Saturday about my DL not being REAL ID compliant. The path to obtaining a REAL ID license if your doesn't expire until after Oct 1 2020 is to request a duplicate ID by mail or online for $10.00. (Online adds $1.00 fee for total of $11.00).
I requested a duplicate this morning online.

Would you mind confirming receipt of your duplicate with the star? I'd happily spend $22 for my wife and I not to have to sit through the DPS office madness IF I were certain that the results would be a REAL ID compliant card. What they SAY works and what DOES work may be two different things. Both my wife and I provided our birth certificates at one point so there should be no problem with them issuing the REAL ID

Sorry that I'm so skeptical.

chasfm11 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:45 am

Grayling813 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:57 am I received a notification letter from DPS on Saturday about my DL not being REAL ID compliant. The path to obtaining a REAL ID license if your doesn't expire until after Oct 1 2020 is to request a duplicate ID by mail or online for $10.00. (Online adds $1.00 fee for total of $11.00).
I requested a duplicate this morning online.

Would you mind confirming receipt of your duplicate with the star? I'd happily spend $22 for my wife and I not to have to sit through the DPS office madness IF I were certain that the results would be a REAL ID compliant card. What they SAY works and what DOES work may be two different things. Both my wife and I provided our birth certificates at one point so there should be no problem with them issuing the REAL ID

Sorry that I'm so skeptical.

ELB wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 11:53 am The REAL ID act requires that government issued IDs used for federal purposes meet a certain set of requirements to give a level of confidence that the bearer is in fact who he or she says he/she.

Since there is no standard federal ID -- the closest we come is the passport, which is not required for US citizens not traveling beyond our borders -- the de facto ID for most people is the state DL, and the Feds have accepted that for years/decades.

However under our federal national structure, each state controls it's own requirements for who gets a state driver's license (or ID) and up to the early 2000s there was no federal requirement for what constituted an State DL/ID acceptable for federal identification purposes.

Several states knowingly allow, even encourage, criminals -- specifically, illegal aliens -- to obtain DLs/IDs. And frankly the amount of vetting that states have traditionally engaged in has been pretty low, making it easy to assume a false identity.

You can grumble all you want but after the attacks on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon as well as many previous airliner incidents, knowing who is on an airliner is not going away. Thus in order to continue to accept state DLs/IDs for federal purposes -- like airway security -- the Federal Government developed a set of minimum requirements to obtain a certain level of confidence that the bearer of a state DL or ID is who he/she claims to be. These requirements include having a LEGAL status to reside in the United States. The physical DL or ID produced incorporates certain technical features to make it harder to tamper with a DL or produce a false one.

The original date for all REAL ID licenses to be issued was May of 2008, but there have been numerous extensions, and I don't think any state met the original date. A couple extensions have come and gone. We are in the final stretch, and DHS is currently accepting the old, non-REAL ID driver's licenses for those states who have substantially complied with the Act and then only for those people born before 01 Dec 1964 (like me).

Under our federal system, no state is required to follow these rules. States may continue to issue licenses and IDs that are not compliant with REAL ID. Also under our federal system, the federal government is free to refuse to accept those DLs/IDs for federal purposes, and require you to present other ID that is acceptable. I think all states have sensibly chosen to incorporate the REAL ID standards to some degree into their state requirements, otherwise the airline-traveling portion of the populations were going to have a very hard time. A couple states are choosing to issue two types of licenses, one REAL ID compliant and one not compliant (which is labeled as not valid for federal identification).

The physical DL or ID produced is marked (at least in the case of Texas) with the star indicating it has gone through the vetting process and it contains the technical features required to make it harder to tamper with or counterfeit the license. Because the LTCs do not incorporate the same technical features or other requirements, they don't get the star and they aren't accepted by the Feds (e.g the TSA) as identification.

If you don't have a state-issued REAL ID compliant driver license or id card, a military ID or passport can be used, or you can enroll in one of the DHS Trusted Traveler programs.