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by ScottDLS
Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:07 pm
Forum: Government resources & CHL-related links
Topic: TSA. & CHL
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Re: TSA. & CHL

AF-Odin wrote: Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:46 pm Not TSA, but an airline ticket agent in Atlanta about 5 or 6 years ago. Went to the kiosk to get my boarding pass and check a bag. Agent called my name and asked to see ID to check the bag. I produced my retired military ID which I have never had refused by TSA or anyone else when requesting ID. Ticket agent looks at it and states that this is not a valid ID and he can't accept it. I ask why it is not acceptable and he states that where it says expiration date, it says indefinite which makes in unacceptable. So, it was easier to get to my LTC than my DL so I pull that out. He looks at it, reaches below the counter and apparently presses a duress button. A moment later an Atlanta police officer walks up and the agent points at me and announces "he has a gun." The police officer grabs both of my arms and pulls them behind my back and repeating multiple times "where's the gun." I keep assuring him I don't have a gun and am not even checking one. Couple more police officers arrive, TSA arrives, airline ticket supervisor arrives. After a pat down by police, they now ask what is going on. The agent shows them my LTC (it was a CHL then) and tells them that I gave him that when asked for ID. I clarified that I had given him my retired military ID and he would not accept it so my LTC was the easiest photo ID to get out. PD, TSA, and supervisor all look at military ID and shake their heads. Police officer apologizes, TSA walks away, supervisor check bag. Went on to security and show boarding pass and mil ID to TSA and walk through, no problem.
My Active Duty Navy Military ID c.1988 had INDEFINITE for the expiration because I had a "regular" (permanent) commission and technically served until I resigned or was shown the door. For anyone who had an enlistment term or a "reserve" commission as an officer the expiration date was filled in. Now I have a US Army DoD Contractor ID and its expiration date is the last day of our contract with the Army. It also works as ID for TSA.
by ScottDLS
Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:37 pm
Forum: Government resources & CHL-related links
Topic: TSA. & CHL
Replies: 15
Views: 15003

Re: TSA. & CHL

WTR wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:34 am
Jusme wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:03 am
ELB wrote: Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:52 am A further note: I think Texas didn't start issuing Real ID compliant DLs and IDs until late 2016, or maybe in 2017, can't find an exact date. So most Texans still do not have a Real ID compliant DL, just the ones who have been issued a DL since late 2016 or 2017. However, for states that meet all the requirements of the Real ID program, the TSA will continued accepting noncompliant DLs until 2020 (I believe), I assume to give everyone a chance to get their card renewed.

I would guess that Texas never intended to make the LTC Rea ID compliant, so TSA has a blanket policy of not accepting them as primary ID.



I sure went through a lot more scrutiny, to get an LTC, than I did a driver's license. :headscratch
That is what my niece said. She told them here is my CHL which has her picture, has been vetted by the FBI and has finger prints on record. Still received a through pat down and had to produce a CC.( can’t make one of those in your spare bedroom you know).
The Real ID requirements are very specific and there is no doubt that Texas could make them compliant, but it may cost money to do so. The requirements to obtain a LTC are probably more strict that required by Real ID, but the certification of DL's/State ID's involves proving the procedures and details to DHS and also the documents themselves have to have certain features. On Real ID Texas DL/IDs the license has a reflective star on the right side of the front of the document "lasered" on to the lamination as best as I can tell. I'm assuming the state just didn't feel like spending the money and trouble to certify the LTC, or maybe DHS won't certify other permit types than DL or State ID.

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