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by flechero
Mon Jul 19, 2021 3:39 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Any links debunking "blood in the streets" post CC??
Replies: 20
Views: 11027

Re: Any links debunking "blood in the streets" post CC??

Jusme wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:56 am Just spit balling here, but why does your dad need to justify CC, to anyone? Those same people predicted shoot outs at high noon, blood, in the streets, etc, when the Concealed Carry law was passed, when Open Carry was passed, when Campus Carry was passed, and they have been wrong at every turn.

Constitutional Carry is just that "Constitutional" There is no need to justify exercising a right. Maybe he should ask them, if they believe, they need the government's "permission" to go to church.
He's not trying to justify it, but rather wanted to have some real facts to share with those who aren';t gun people and aren't activists... most of his congregation is conservative but most aren't gun guys either. So to be able to correct the Bologna being spread by a few with actual facts. He had a few people ask his opinion (he's in leadership) and he wanted to be able to supplement his opinion with some concrete evidence.

I admire him for this... it's a lot more effective than doing nothing and allowing those within earshot to form an opinion based on total bologna.

BigGuy wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:25 pm
Vol Texan wrote: Mon Jul 19, 2021 1:09 pm In short, don’t prepare for conversations with the ‘other side’. Instead prepare for conversations with folks who are either ‘on our side but wavering in their understanding’ or with folks who are ‘not sure where the stand because they don’t know enough to make a good decision just yet.’
:iagree: Sound advice. We're not going to convince the other side anyway.
This^^^^ he's not speaking to the other side- he's preventing the other side from converting those who haven't taken a side.
by flechero
Mon Jul 19, 2021 1:00 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Any links debunking "blood in the streets" post CC??
Replies: 20
Views: 11027

Re: Any links debunking "blood in the streets" post CC??

Grayling813 wrote: Sun Jul 18, 2021 9:08 pm Dr. John Lott’s research at the Crime Research Prevention Center https://crimeresearch.org/ is the best place I know of to educate yourself and others about the facts.
Thanks for the link!


As for the rest of the responses, I know that it hasn't happened but his son's word won't cary the weight as reputable published stats and facts.

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by flechero
Sun Jul 18, 2021 7:42 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Any links debunking "blood in the streets" post CC??
Replies: 20
Views: 11027

Any links debunking "blood in the streets" post CC??

My Dad (who is normally not one to confront anti 2A types) called today and asked for some reputable links to studies or stats that show Constitutional carry won't turn to blood in the streets. Apparently a few people at his Church were spouting off about it and he wants some factual and reputable info to show them.

Seems like I have seen lots of links in the past to FBI or DOJ studies and stats that show either a decrease or no increase in crime and gun related incidents post CC. Anyone able to recall specific ones and provide me a couple links to share?

Thanks!!

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