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philip964 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 14, 2021 9:14 am https://austonia.com/ben-affleck-jennifer-lopez-austin

It worse than we thought, Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez in Austin now. They are renting a house.

Egad! They look like Ken and Barbie in that picture!

03Lightningrocks wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 8:54 am The problem with TAM's anecdote is that the vast majority of people, regardless of where they come from, who desire to carry concealed will tend to be conservative. These folks are in the VAST minority of the leftist scum moving here from Kalifornia. Just look at how they have destroyed the once great city of Austin.

FYI, Austin was weird back in 1973 when I lived there.....and that was without a bunch of transplanted Californians. You’ll recall that 1973 was back when republican Ronald Reagan was still governor of California, and democrat Preston Smith was being succeeded by democrat Dolph Briscoe as governor of Texas.

You can blame Austin on Californians if you like, but it simply isn’t historically factual. Californians eventually began to move there because Austin was already Austin. Austin was already on the hippie death spiral 50 years ago. That’s not anecdotal; that’s a fact.

As far as my "anecdotal-evidence" based opinion, it’s not based on one person, applying for an LTC. It’s based on hundreds of people that I’ve met from California in the past year as I fingerprinted them. Furthermore, I fingerprint people for about 200 different reasons, of which LTC is only one reason. I fingerprint people for their CPA licenses, medical licenses, engineering licenses, legal name changes, adoption background checks, insurance licenses, commercial HazMat licenses, etc., etc.

I’m sorry if this isn’t convenient to the narrative.

As I previously stated, which chasfm11 and a few others seem to have recognized, some Californians who move here are undoubtedly liberals, but I think, with good reason, that most who give up everything to move here are not:

The Annoyed Man wrote: ↑Mon Apr 12, 2021 9:20 am There are some who are going to move here and bring California with them. But I’d posit that a large number of those are people who are headed to already liberal enclaves, because they can’t imagine being "forced" to live among the dirt people. If Austin gets even freakier and more liberal than it already is, is anyone else going to notice it that much?

California liberals who move here will have some effect on local politics wherever they wash up; but I do think we may be overstating their effect on the entire state.

Why aren’t most of those who move here going to be liberals? Because liberals LIKE California, exactly the way it is, and with all the free sh.....uh....stuff they get there. They LIKE the climate. They LIKE being able to virtue-signal from the safety of a commie state where there’s no financial or social penalty for being shiftless. They’re mostly afraid of pulling up stakes and leaving cushy California where they’re in the majority, and moving to a state where it is a LOT harder to sell that brand of nonsense; where they maybe won't fit in; where everybody has guns ( !); where there are so many churches ( !); where personal responsibility is an expectation and where people know to stand their ground. All of this is terrifying to a California leftist.

Are some of them coming here? Sure, and I never claimed any differently.

chasfm11 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:01 am

wil wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:01 am

Myself I moved back here over a decade ago, after doing so and knowing what it takes to make a change such as that. I tend to think those who are doing likewise are of the mindset to escape the insanity of the entrenched democrat socialism.
I find it difficult to think someone who believes in what that state represents overall and agrees with such a thing would go to the length of leaving. Only those who have read the writing on the wall and realize the only option is to escape via leaving would deliberately uproot their lives and come here.

When I moved here in '88, it was a corporate relocation. Granted, I was doing it voluntarily because I had worked here part time for several of the preceding years and loved what i had experienced. But that isn't always that case when I business moves - and many are. I don't have any idea how many of the businesses are bringing people with them but I'd guess the numbers could be significant.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/23/why-com ... ornia.html

I came here with my job. I had the choice of remaining in California and losing my job, or moving and keeping my job. Granted, it was a small business and not a giant corporation, but the variables in the calculus at the level of the individual employee are going to be the same; and in no particular order, they are:

1. Will I be easily enough able to find another job if I stay in California, without taking a large financial hit?

2. Will I be politically/culturally/spiritually at home in the new location?

3. (Related) How easily will I be able to integrate my life into the local pace and social patterns when I arrive?

4. If I move, will the move augment or diminish my financial status?

5. How much will I miss my family/friends/old haunts when I move?

For me, #1 wasn’t all that certain. I would have had to start over again and kiss goodby to the sweat equity I had in my current job.

As a then-very conservative religious person, and a former resident of Texas 30+ years previously, #2 was easy.

#3 was easy too, because I knew that a large part of my social life would revolve around church life, and all I needed to do was to find a good church.

#4 was a no-brainer. Selling my California home for more than 3x what I had paid for it just 7 yrs earlier, and writing a check for a newer nicer bigger home in Texas was one of the soundest financial decisions I’ve ever made, having positive consequences that still affects my life today.

#5 was maybe a little more difficult, but it was more so for my wife and son than it was for me. But today, 15 years later this month, all three of us would tell you that leaving California and moving here was by far the best thing we ever did.

So who benefits from moving here?

—Well, for one thing, former renters who now have a legitimate shot at buying a home of their own.

—Former homeowners who were slaves to their mortgages and just barely keeping their noses above water, and who have the opportunity to buy a nicer home and still have some financial headroom left.

—People of faith who no longer have to feel like they’re social outcasts because they attend religious services.

—Gun owners who yearn to breathe free, and people who wanted to become gun owners but were intimidated by California's draconian gun laws.

—People who see opportunity where others fear change.

—People who see their departure as the ultimate in giving the finger to an overarching, incompetent, and increasingly tyrannical gov’t in Sacramento.

There are some who are going to move here and bring California with them. But I’d posit that a large number of those are people who are headed to already liberal enclaves, because they can’t imagine being "forced" to live among the dirt people. If Austin gets even freakier and more liberal than it already is, is anyone else going to notice it that much?

California liberals who move here will have some effect on local politics wherever they wash up; but I do think we may be overstating their effect on the entire state.

In my daily work, I fingerprint a lot of California transplants to Texas. Virtually ALL of them are grateful to be here, and express disgust with California’s economic and gun policies. Out of all of them, I’ve only spoken to one who doesn’t like it here that much and wants to go back.....and she was kind of a useless hippie.

There’s no doubt that some liberals are moving here; but I have come to believe that we might have been taking counsel of our fears, and that the reality is that the largest number of them are coming here for the same reasons I did, and see Texas as a refuge from California's insanity.