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by The Annoyed Man
Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:58 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Church Security Team help!!
Replies: 32
Views: 10514

Re: Church Security Team help!!

srothstein wrote: Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:50 pm
The Annoyed Man wrote: Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:48 pm
Stan U wrote: Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:34 pm
The Annoyed Man wrote: Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:51 am My church has a “first responders” team. All members of the team wear a polo shirt identifying them as a “first responder”. The guys with the blue polo shirts are all active or retired LEOs who attend there. The guys will the red polo shirts are all medical/EMS people. But other than the color difference, they both say “first responder”, and nothing else, on the left breast of the polo shirt.
Shouldn't medical wear blue tunics and security wear red?
I don’t think it matters.
I believe that was a reference to the Star Trek uniform colors, where the shirt color tells people which division you are in.

It would also be worth noting in that case, that the security could never leave the church itself. The red shirts on the away team never survived.
:lol: I guess I’m not much of a Trekkie.
by The Annoyed Man
Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:48 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Church Security Team help!!
Replies: 32
Views: 10514

Re: Church Security Team help!!

Stan U wrote: Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:34 pm
The Annoyed Man wrote: Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:51 am My church has a “first responders” team. All members of the team wear a polo shirt identifying them as a “first responder”. The guys with the blue polo shirts are all active or retired LEOs who attend there. The guys will the red polo shirts are all medical/EMS people. But other than the color difference, they both say “first responder”, and nothing else, on the left breast of the polo shirt.
Shouldn't medical wear blue tunics and security wear red?
I don’t think it matters.
by The Annoyed Man
Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:51 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Church Security Team help!!
Replies: 32
Views: 10514

Re: Church Security Team help!!

My church has a “first responders” team. All members of the team wear a polo shirt identifying them as a “first responder”. The guys with the blue polo shirts are all active or retired LEOs who attend there. The guys will the red polo shirts are all medical/EMS people. But other than the color difference, they both say “first responder”, and nothing else, on the left breast of the polo shirt.

I am personally acquainted with most or all of the blue shirt guys, and they all know I carry. The church has compliant 30.07 signs posted at all entrances, but it is quite accepting of concealed carry, and a lot of our members do carry. Average attendance on any weekend is around 1500+, broken out into two large Sunday morning services, and one smaller Sunday evening service.....so probably about 700 people in each of those two morning services, and maybe a 100-150 in the evening. It’s a safe bet that as many as 40-50 people are carrying in each of the morning services, and maybe 8 or so in the evening service.....and that’s just congregants and doesn’t include “first responders” in blue polo shirts.

What I’m getting at is that this seems to be a good way to cover security - to have “first responders” with color coded shirts, rather than to have shirts that specifically say “security” or “medical” on them. The last time I heard an announcement from the pulpit about it (about a month ago), the speaker announced a meeting after the service for people who were interested in volunteering in a security or medical first response capacity. Although he mentioned LEOs specifically, he seemed to leave it open for non-LEOs to be blue-shirts. But as far as I know, all blue-shirts are LEO. I considered volunteering, but realized that I have neither enough training, nor am I in good enough physical condition to take on such a thing. Plus, I already volunteer a fair amount in a worship team capacity, and don’t want to bite off more than I can chew.

The one thing I wish they would do - but I understand that there may be some legal and/or insurance issues - would be to organize a meeting for people who are not on the team, but who do carry, and who (A) want to make themselves known to the team so that if they ever have to draw their gun in an active shooter situation, they won’t get shot by a blue-shirt; and/or (B) who are willing to be “reservists” who can be called on in the event that additional people are needed before local law enforcement can arrive. I would be willing to be a “reservist”. And reason (A) is exactly why I took the time to introduce myself to most of the blue-shirts back when the church first started this program.

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